News Wiseman And Jones – Fans Relate To Our Characters

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  1. AutoAdmin

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    A new news article has been published at TrekToday:

    Season Two of Star Trek: Discovery begins next week, and Mary Wiseman and Doug Jones talk about the reception to their characters...

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  2. Awesome Possum

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    Yeah, I really relate to Tilly. She’s the first Trek character I actually feel some connection to other than wishing Picard was my dad at age 6.
     
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    I assume you know a new novel about Tilly went on sale this week . . ..
     
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    I never could get into the novels before, but I’ll check that one out.
     
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    Interesting article. I could understand Tilly, but I was trying to figure out how Suru was relatable. I can see the social anxiety thing, but he got more confidant as the season went on. I still want him to be Captain of Discovery, maybe heading into Season 3. As for Tilly, I love how fun she is. She figures something out and lets out an F-yeah (paraphrased of course). It kind of reminds me of the JPL scientists celebrating when a rover lands on Mars. Celebrate your hard work, you've earned it.
     
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    Saru is unsure of himself. He's clearly capable of command and has proven himself when given the chance, but lacks the confidence to do it.
     
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    The scene near the end of the final Mirror episode comes to mind
     
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    Was that the scene with his speech and This is Discovery, and this is her maiden Voyage? That was probably my favorite thing in the entire first season.
     
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    Yes
     
  10. Greg Cox

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    I'm about 100 pages into it. Enjoying it so far.
     
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    I got it off Amazon digitally, I'm starting it tonight.
     
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    I think they were all pretty easy to relate to even Lorca. Burnham and Tyler and the Klingons were I think the hardest. Burnham is still to much "Action Hero trope" IMO. I don't think I fully understand what was up with the Klingons and what motivated them. I am still unsure what Tyler is even suppose to be. Is he human with Klingon memories or vice versa and what does this all have to do with merging body parts together I think is what they did. Why did they even do any of that to begin with.


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    I agree that Tilly and Saru had generally the most relatable depth, and for roughly the same reason - both are portrayed as having concerns, anxieties, and confidence issues, something normal people experience at work all the time but Star Trek has rarely portrayed in the past and gone for ridicule when it has (early Reg Barclay). Saru has a boatload of imposter syndrome in the captain's chair but does his best to rise to the occasion, and that's good to watch. Tilly is a typical probationer/newbie, green and keen.
     
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    Don't forget Stamets as well. He is someone who is almost anti-social and doesn't know how to talk about his feelings well which I think is a great thing personally to add to Trek's first gay character. Instead of going with the cliche of making him all warm and understanding they gave him the emotions you usually see from a loner type of character. He actually reminds me of Odo. Someone who isn't exactly going to win you over with charm or conversation but undeneath has a great amount of feelings and passions about his job and the people he cares about.


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    I agree - one of the things I like best about Discovery is the way the characters, particularly the supporting cast, are written with a depth and nuance that Star Trek usually lacked. The plot needs tightening and they need to calm down with the Big Revelations, but that's a really good framework to build on.
     
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    I think Lorca would have worked better if they had hinted from the beginning that he was up to something sinister or wasn't who he said he was. Similar to how Wells was done in season one of The Flash. They didn't reveal he was Thrawne, but he was clearly up to something sinister which made him a more interesting character to watch.
     
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    He did act a lot different from captains we were used to.

    Rewatching the season you can see the ‘mirror’ in him.
     
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    I think there's just enough to hint at something going on when Lorca has Landry transport the Tardigrade over to Discovery at the end of "Context Is for Kings", and then he tries to provoke it. It's a kernel that grows in "Lethe" when Cornwell notices the scars on Lorca's back. I basically thought he was up to something from the start.
     
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    Quite a few people on this forum even theorized it.

    A couple before Frakes even revealed it.
     
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    He's clearly up to something but it was subtle enough on the first viewing that many complained that he was ruining Trek by having being an asshole. I feel it could have been made more clear instead of going for the reveal he was really evil and then from the MU. I think they could have made it clear that he wasn't the real Lorca and then use that as tension until the reveal that he's from the MU. Maybe even play the idea of a possible Klingon spy in human form by having him be the mysterious one, then subvert it by revealing it was Tyler. But then again I like to imagine different ways to write a season or episode for my own amusement.