Think about it. Will people in the year 2285 still be watching 300-year old sci-fi films set in their time? Or will it be long forgotten?
Will People Still Watch Star Trek in the 23rd century?
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How much of the popular culture of 1708 is commonly viewed, or remembered, today by anyone other than specialists?
Ah, but we have film and photography. Mediums that would enable people from the distant future to see our world exactly as we saw it.
Books, music, art. Lots. Stuff from long before 1708 too. I guess that depends on how you define "specialist."
For a fast definition, I'll say a specialist is a person whose actual or desired job or career requires the reading of the popular literature of 1708, or listening to its popular music, or appreciating its art, et cetera. People who have a motivation to experience this stuff for reasons other than the joy of the stuff.
So, if you want to tell me that lots of the popular culture of 1708 is still in the popular culture I'd appreciate examples of, like, Edmund Curill's The Charitable Surgeon being the subject of at least as many conversations as Whatever, Martha was this past week.
I don't deny that there's stuff from the 18th century and earlier that's still in the popular culture. I'm saying that most of the stuff that people were reading, writing, listening to, and watching has been forgotten, most of it for the simple reason that there's been three hundred years of other stuff to pay attention to since then.
I am fairly certain that the shows/movies will exist in some contemporary viewable form, aafter retrieval from some archives.
A better question is that will there be a 23 century version of Star Trek? If so I speculate that it would be only marginally recognizable as such.
A better question is that will there be a 23 century version of Star Trek? If so I speculate that it would be only marginally recognizable as such.
That'd be fun to see. And admittedly, they'd probably find our view of the future funny, like we find the Jetsons funny.
Or like watching Back to the Future 2 in 2015
If it was still available, and popular for some reason considering it's age, I imagine people getting annoyed at the show coming out on new formats. "What?! I just finished my isolinear rod collection and now I have to buy it all again?!"
You are assuming that we'll be around for a 23rd century. Ask that question after December of 2012.
How many people watch silent movies today? And lots of people won't even watch program in black and white now. Live theater's a different animal.
The only thing that might happen on Dec. 21, 2012 will be that some Mayan computers built before September 20, 1618 will crash. Chisel "Clockfix.exe" into it and it'll be fine.
The only thing that might happen on Dec. 21, 2012 will be that some Mayan computers built before September 20, 1618 will crash. Chisel "Clockfix.exe" into it and it'll be fine.
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Lord Garth
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In order to even begin to guess what TV or movies will be like in the 23rd Century, we'd have to look at the evolution of novels over the passed 2' or 300 years.
I think they have the capacity to endure like theatre and literature have but there will be several changes and mutations, much like today.
Right now I think latter-20th Century culture has reached a critical mass. The 21st Century really hasn't come into its own yet, it's still borrowing heavily from the 20th. When this century matures, it'll have its own lore, and I'm not sure what the adaptive range of every television or movie series is.
It seems to me like 10 years is "old school", 20 years is "retro", and 50 years is "historic". It makes sense that Star Trek is being rebooted now, taking that into account, but how many times can Star Trek (or anything else) be rebooted before it becomes repetitive?
I don't think people will still watch Star Trek in the future. They might watch something similar. If Star Trek is still around, it'll be completely different.
Culture is becoming more niche and less monolithic. I think that's a permanent change. Star Trek were still around it might become less broad even as the population becomes more broad. People will have far more choices and Star Trek would be no exception. With increasingly more advanced technology something like Star Trek would be much cheaper or easier to produce.
I'm finished channeling Alvin Toffler now.
I think they have the capacity to endure like theatre and literature have but there will be several changes and mutations, much like today.
Right now I think latter-20th Century culture has reached a critical mass. The 21st Century really hasn't come into its own yet, it's still borrowing heavily from the 20th. When this century matures, it'll have its own lore, and I'm not sure what the adaptive range of every television or movie series is.
It seems to me like 10 years is "old school", 20 years is "retro", and 50 years is "historic". It makes sense that Star Trek is being rebooted now, taking that into account, but how many times can Star Trek (or anything else) be rebooted before it becomes repetitive?
I don't think people will still watch Star Trek in the future. They might watch something similar. If Star Trek is still around, it'll be completely different.
Culture is becoming more niche and less monolithic. I think that's a permanent change. Star Trek were still around it might become less broad even as the population becomes more broad. People will have far more choices and Star Trek would be no exception. With increasingly more advanced technology something like Star Trek would be much cheaper or easier to produce.
I'm finished channeling Alvin Toffler now.
People stopped watching Star Trek at the beginning of the 21st Century. That's why Enterprise was canceled in 2005.
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If I recall......it was stated in Trek that "television" did not last
What about I Love Lucy?
Everything borrows from the past. There isn't a point where humanity decides to throw everything from previous generations away. Things evolve sure, but it's still built upon that from previous generations. Industrialization started in the 19th century but it's still important today.
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Lord Garth
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^ I didn't say the future would throw everything away. What I'm saying is that we'll have more pop-culture and franchises indigenous and to the 21st Century eventually.
Well I mostly meant that everything builds on everything. Pop culture in the 21st century will have evolved from 20th century pop-culture, rather than being something completely new.
If I recall......it was stated in Trek that "television" did not last
Until Neelix brought it back for his own chat show in Voyager
and of course, advertising by Quark.There are obviously transmissions and statements sent out I imagine it would be like reading an article and if you wanted to see a repeat of the statement, tap a YouTube-like link. Though a olling 24/7 news service might make a nice addition... even for one world.
