Will Beyond address the passing of Spock Prime?

[starburst]

This completely. "Dedicated to Leonard Nimoy" would be great*, Spock should keep on livin'.

Or maybe more? Like "Dedicated to Leonard Nimoy, Grace Lee Whitney, and all the family we've lost along the way..."

For me this, either a specific dedication to Leonard Nimoy if they want to just note his loss last year or if I were doing it "In Memory of Absent Friends..." as a dedication to Gene, Majel, DeForest, James, Leonard, Grace and anyone and everyone else who appeared on and off screen (like Matt Jefferies).

I liked when they paid tribute to General Hammond in Stargate by letting the character pass the same way as the actor and naming a ship after him... just not in this case.

 

[StarMan]

^That's what I thought - a specific dedication to Nimoy. Without any disrespect to Whitney... this is Spock we're talking about.

 

[shapeshifter]

The comics already established Spock Prime disappeared shortly after STID. So if anything is mentioned about him in Beyond, it should be that.

I could live with him being MIA, his fate open-ended.
Or, him reappearing in the original universe via Trek comics and/or novels would be nice.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

The comics already established Spock Prime disappeared shortly after STID

Did they say what happened to him?

 

[The Wormhole]

Did they say what happened to him?

No, in the After Darkness story (set immediately after STID) with Spock going through his ponn farr, Kirk asks Sarek if Spock Prime is around to answer any questions, to which Sarek reveals Spock Prime went missing not long ago.

To my knowledge the comics have never brought up Spock Prime again, and even the upcoming story arc devoted to Spock Prime in the Abramsverse is a flashback set between XI and STID, so it seems he has been effectively removed from the stories without being killed off. Which feels appropriate.

 

[Kor]

In those comics, how do they refer to Spock Prime? Do they actually call him "Spock Prime"?

Kor

 

[BillJ]

In those comics, how do they refer to Spock Prime? Do they actually call him "Spock Prime"?

Kor

They call him "BAMF!" (bad ass mother fucker).

 

[Abaddon]

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I hope not.

 

[The Wormhole]

In those comics, how do they refer to Spock Prime? Do they actually call him "Spock Prime"?

The Enterprise crew just refer to him as "the other Spock." Sarek refers to him as "Spock the Elder."

 

[Ghel]

I don't see why Spock Prime needs to die to honor Nimoy. I prefer to think Spock lives. This is actually one thing I like about the new films in general. Although the older acters may have retired or passed, the characters can be young and healthy again. Along this line, I got really tired of the post Star Trek VI novels where a retired Enterprise crew kept getting back together for "one more" post retirement adventure. Let the characters live!!!

 

[Terok Nor]

Spock already died in Wrath Of Khan. Leave it at that. It was iconic. We don't need to know how he died the second time.

 

[The Wormhole]

Along this line, I got really tired of the post Star Trek VI novels where a retired Enterprise crew kept getting back together for "one more" post retirement adventure. Let the characters live!!!

The entire TOS cast (aside from Kirk) lives well into the post-Nemesis timeline in the novel continuity. If anything, it's kind of silly that they all make it to the 2380s. Ironically, Scotty, who isn't that far-fetched to be still alive given he spent seven decades frozen in a transporter might have been killed in one novel (it's left ambiguous in the end).

 

[Lance]

I can only echo what others have already said, in that I don't see how killing off the character is necessary. Indeed, I'd think that a far bigger tribute to Leonard Nimoy would be to suggest that Spock Prime is still out there, doing his thing. Sure they can have an on-screen tribute to Nimoy, they can even address what Spock Prime is up to, but I don't think killing off the character (again) is a good idea.

 

[eyeresist]

Spock didn't die, Leonard Nimoy did.

I was going to say that.

What ever becomes of Spock Prime, it should not be mentioned unless it is in some way relevant to the story or themes of the current film. If it's not relevant, then it would arguably belittle the character and the actor, to be mentioned so pointlessly.

Currently the Enterprise is exploring deep space, so Spock Prime is unlikely to be relevant to their adventures. Perhaps the films will eventually deal with the problem of the Vulcan diaspora, in which case ...

As others have said, a simple "For Leonard" (or some such) would be a tasteful and moving acknowledgement.

 

[47of74]

The entire TOS cast (aside from Kirk) lives well into the post-Nemesis timeline in the novel continuity. If anything, it's kind of silly that they all make it to the 2380s. Ironically, Scotty, who isn't that far-fetched to be still alive given he spent seven decades frozen in a transporter might have been killed in one novel (it's left ambiguous in the end).

And of course in the "Shatnerverse" Kirk came back thanks to some sort of Borg technology.

One thing that really struck me at a family reunion one time was that Elias Vaughn was in fairly good shape, looking on all the book covers I had seen more like a 60 year old man than one who had just hit the century mark. At that family reunion there was my Granddad's oldest brother at the age of 96, confined to a wheelchair and barely able to hear or see at that point in his life. It just struck me that there might be a time in humanity's future where celebrating a 100th birthday might be the rule rather than the exception. Or even 110, 120, or so on.

 

[RoJoHen]

The only reason I would like it to be acknowledged is that Spock Prime was in the first two movies, so it would be a way to give his character a final send off. It doesn't need to happen, but I think it could be a nice tribute if done well.

 

[RandyS]

I hope not. Why does it need to be address?

Agreed. Let it go. celebrate the 50th in some other, more positive way.

I was 23 when they wrote Kirk out of Trek. At the time, I thought change was good. But as I got older, I realized what a huge mistake it was. They cut out part of the heart of the franchise, I felt the same way when they axed Data.

Once again, agreed. I hated that they killed off Data because of what how that started sending the 24th century novels completely off the rails. I still hope for the day we get some TNG (along with DS9, VOYAGER and ENTERPRISE novels set within their series), but I've about given up waiting for that.

Oh, and for the record, I was 24 when they killed off Kirk.

 

[TheSubCommander]

Spock didn't die, Leonard Nimoy did. The passing of Nimoy can be acknowledged in a before or after film Memorial / Dedication.

Making Nimoy's passing a part of the story by making up some reason for Spock to have died would be a mistake on par with the death of James T Kirk, imo.

Agreed. A simple credit stating "Dedicated to the memory of Leonard Nimoy" or something similar, would be the best, and classiest way to go. I'd prefer they leave it ambiguous whether Spock Prime is alive or not, just like Scotty and Bones.

That said, I would not be opposed to a seperate 50th anniversary special that also has segments celebrating the various Star Trek actors, and all the other behind-the-scenes workers, writers, producers, that we have seen pass away over the years.

 

[TheSubCommander]

I was 23 when they wrote Kirk out of Trek. At the time, I thought change was good. But as I got older, I realized what a huge mistake it was. They cut out part of the heart of the franchise, I felt the same way when they axed Data.

I wasn't a fan of either death at the time they debuted, and still am not a fan. But with good writing, in both cases, they could have theoretically brought either back. Data was obviously the easiest to bring back, but since another TNG movie is about as likely to happen as a cool day in Hades, Data's death diminishes the TNG send off Nemesis ended up being.

Kirk's death actually bothered a lot me all the way up to Star Trek 2009. Once Kirk was recast, it bothered me a whole lot less. As more and more examples of Shatner's personality have come to light to me in recent years (since 2001), I slowly came to actually feel he doesn't deserve to reprise the role, and he would likely make a mockery of it, anyway.

 

[JWPlatt]

I agree with all the reasons above for Spock to live on. The OP topic title is extremely and ILLOGICALLY presumptuous.