Why not sequels?

Discussion in 'Future of Trek' started by Jonathan Peters, Aug 31, 2017.

  1. Jonathan Peters

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    I must be missing something, I have yet to see why the new batch of star trek "creators" are always making sequels does siko end star trek? I havent watched all of deep space nine yet im into season 2 now, finished voyger and they left very inetersting tech questions unanswered, but my question remains are these "creators" just bad writer's? Or is there a reason on why they only do prequels
     
  2. BillJ

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    Making TV and movies is a business. People are generally more interested in the 23rd century.
     
  3. Jonathan Peters

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    You think people are more. Interested in the 23rd century versus say the 29th?
     
  4. Jonathan Peters

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    Honestly a story about protecting the temporal prime directive would be better then the last two movies, i think they decided to save money and reuse the same same scripts in the last two movies. But is there a tech reason on why they wont go past voyger in the timeline?
     
  5. doylem1

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    I'd prefer a series continuing where DS9 left off or even set a few years after Voyager returned.
    I've no interest in prequels as all they tend to do is spit in the face of previously established cannon and continuity. The only prequel I was even interested in seeing was Sulu aboard the Excelsior which I wouldn't class as a prequel but a continuation of the TOS/TMP story line. But that boat has long sailed now Mr Takei is in his senior years
     
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    Kirk, Spock and Co. are the standard reference point for Star Trek in popular culture.

    If a new show was advertised as "centuries after the Dominion War, eons after Sisko and Janeway," nobody would know what they heck they were talking about.

    Kor
     
  7. Ensign Ogahd Ahmganadai

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    Then there's the fact that anything set after 2387 would need to be able to mention the Bortus incident and the fact that Romulus no longer exists. There's just no way to ignore something that universe-changing. But they can't mention it because they don't have rights to any Bad Robot film material.
     
  8. Dukhat

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    The Hobus incident, not the Bortus incident.

    They (CBS) can do whatever they want.
     
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  9. Ensign Ogahd Ahmganadai

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    I knew I should have looked that up.

    Are you sure? I understand the contracts are pretty strict.
     
  10. fireproof78

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    Yes, absolutely.
    It's still CBS' property. They have a lot more flexibility than they are ever given credit for.
     
  11. BillJ

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    No thanks. That is like kryptonite to general audiences, no one would show up.
     
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  12. Vger23

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    It amazes me that this topic comes up like once a week.
     
  13. Ensign Ogahd Ahmganadai

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    But the Kelvin films are not CBS's property. They're Paramount's property. I have been given to understand that outside the Kelvin films, with the exception of STO which got permission from Paramount, that no Trek properties can use even part of that setting. It's why the novelverse is gonna stretch out the year 2386 as long as they can. They can't mention Hobus but don't want to just ignore it.
     
  14. Tenacity

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    Some fans (myself included) don't want a 25th century Star Trek owing to the technology increasingly becoming too "magical." Unless TPTB come up with a explanation or event that takes some of the technological capacity of the Federation/Starfleet away.

    There's been the suggestion through the years of a Federation civil war, or some kind of social upheaval, that would strip away a century of advancements.

    Such an event would have to effect the other major powers in the galaxy surrounding the Federation as well.
    If CBS were to move beyond Nemesis, just ignoring it would probably be the way to go. The destruction of Romulas was only briefing mentioned and outside of hardcore Trek fans likely none of the general audience would remember it.
     
  15. Ensign Ogahd Ahmganadai

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    I've had that problem myself. TOS tried to predict 200 years into the future and got so much wrong. Could you imagine trying to predict five, six or even eight centuries from now (as one post here suggested)? It would either be like watching a society of gods ("we need a class-M planet." "No problem. We'll replicate one.") or laughably dated in twenty or thirty years ("the producers of this show really thought we'd still be using hand-held padds in 2856?")

    I'd be okay with early 25th century though. And I'm not sure about some catastrophic event that sends everybody back a few centuries, tech-wise. It would be too problematic, as you point out.

    I wouldn't like that. The aftermath of the Romulans Star Empire would be a great drama creator.
     
  16. Dukhat

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    Yes, the films themselves are Paramount's property. But CBS owns the intellectual property that is Star Trek in its entirety. Which means that if CBS wanted to make a tv series based on the Kelvin timeline, they could do so. What they couldn't do was use any stock footage from the Paramount films, or props, sets, models, etc. from the films unless Paramount sold them to CBS.
     
  17. Ensign Ogahd Ahmganadai

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    So why are the novel writers concerned about Hobus?
     
  18. Dukhat

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    Ask them. I have no idea what the novel writers are doing.
     
  19. KennyB

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    The general public yes.
     
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  20. fireproof78

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    That is an oversimplification as CBS still owns Star Trek as a property.

    The novelverse writers are going to do whatever CBS tells them to do.