Why have there been no Kelvinverse novels?

Discussion in 'Star Trek Movies: Kelvin Universe' started by PaddyRyan1706, Jun 18, 2017.

  1. PaddyRyan1706

    PaddyRyan1706 Lieutenant Red Shirt

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    It just strikes me as a bit odd?
     
  2. F. King Daniel

    F. King Daniel Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Four were written in preparation for a summer 2010 release, but they were pulled at the last minute. Something to do with Bad Robot wanting more control over tie-in products, and it's resulted in the Kelvin universe being "off limits" to Pocket's Trek novel line. The novelverse is currently in something of a quandary, because they can't feature anything from the Kelvin universe movies, which includes the 2387 supernova which destroyed Romulus - and the "present day" of the novelverse is 2386. More on that HERE.

    We did get four Starfleet Academy young adult prequel novels.
     
  3. Mage

    Mage Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Whenever this comes up, this Bad Robots vs Pockets' TrekLit universe, all I can think of is....


     
  4. David cgc

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    Well, Pocket is in license renewal negotiations with CBS, and I can't imagine the KT issue isn't something they're trying to find a solution to. Of course, we probably won't know until something overtly from the new films is slipped into a novel as a tease. Or maybe they'll be wildly impatient with the whole thing and tell us immediately that the epic three-part miniseries Countdown to Prose is now on the board, just like they did with Trip's death.
     
  5. PixelMagic

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    Probably marketability. The type of hardcore Trekkie to read a Trek novel tends to also hate the Kelvinverse. Just not enough demand.
     
  6. F. King Daniel

    F. King Daniel Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    By that logic, they'd be no novels for Enterprise and they'd definitely never risk writing anything for Discovery - but there's loads of ENT novels, including an ongoing post-ENT series (Rise of the Federation) and the first DSC novel is already written and awaiting release concurrent to the show's debut.
     
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  7. queerTrekker

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    there was a novelization of the first kelvin film that i know of, and i think there was a series set in the Academy Days of Kirk, but I think the series was discontinued or it never made it to full publication, i can't remember which.
     
  8. Mage

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    I'm not sure if you ever frequent the Trek Literature section of the forum, but if you did, you'd find that statement is way of.
     
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  9. Khan 2.0

    Khan 2.0 Commodore Commodore

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    remember anticipating the Spock Prime novel (Hazards of Concealing). I guess they got shut down due to the sequel
     
  10. KennyB

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    I would think the main reason is they don't want anyone mucking up the canvass that they are still painting on.........and they want complete control over any tie ins. Just a thought.
     
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    Balok's Decoy Commodore Commodore

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    Also there wouldn't be Kelvin Timeline comic books, and there are, and that series has been ongoing since 2011.
     
  12. The Wormhole

    The Wormhole Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    The whole thing with the cancelled novels from 2010 always seemed sloppy and suspicious to me, IMO. Cover images and back cover blurbs were released and the books were made available to pre-order and than almost instantly afterwards it was announced they were being pulled with no explanation. There's a lot more to that story, IMO.
     
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  13. Balok's Decoy

    Balok's Decoy Commodore Commodore

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    What do you think is going on there?
     
  14. The Wormhole

    The Wormhole Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Don't know, but something.
     
  15. Dales

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    they just dropped the ball. the kelvin verse should have had novels and a cartoon
     
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    Sometime the powers that be do back steps for no reason that they will talk about but it most likely was done due to the licensing contracts not being signed
     
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    I wish somebody from Pocket Books would just come clean on exactly what happened. :rolleyes:

    Kor
     
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  18. WARLOCK1965

    WARLOCK1965 Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    Good luck to all on finding out what happening with the books
     
  19. The Wormhole

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    It really is a convoluted mess. The authors who post on this forum claim they were never provided an explanation for why they books were pulled, but they were still paid in full anyways. The party line has been that Bad Robot didn't want them published because they didn't get to supervise them, though Orci actually denied Bad Robot had anything to do with pulling them.

    So, we have the situation of four novels which had money spent on them being pulled mere days after the public became aware of them, thereby preventing Pocket the opportunity to make back the money they already spent with no explanation and the ones able to explain this are just pointing fingers at one another. This eleventh hour decision created a four-month gap in the 2010 schedule in which there were no Trek novels published.

    Even ignoring the fact that's just dicking people around, publishing these novels could have helped keep the new movie continuity on the radar between movies, since by getting tie-in novels a year after the movie's release you're still kind of striking while the iron is hot, but what do I know?
     
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  20. F. King Daniel

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    I'm not keen on shit-stirring, but posts on this page as well as this one may be of interest.

    Whatever happened (or perhaps didn't), what's done is done and we've since learned that those four written novels were rendered unpublishable by events in Into Darkness anyway.