Why doesn't Michael have an Arrowhead on her uniform?

[The Wormhole]

Yes, I know, it's supposed to be because she's been stripped of rank, and since rank on these uniforms is within the Arrowhead, no rank apparently means no Arrowhead. But is there any reason why she can't simply have a blank Arrowhead on her uniform? Her prison uniform had one, so why doesn't her duty uniform?

 

[Charles Phipps]

I guess it's some sign she's not a member of Starfleet but a prisoner.

 

[cultcross]

Plus I'm imagining they're keeping it for a totes emoshe scene where she gets the badge back.

I'm welling up just thinking about it.

 

[Kor]

So as a prisoner in the mustard jumpsuit, she had the arrowhead to show that she was a Starfleet prisoner (and not civilian), but in a provisional/acting/conditional/whatever duty role on a Starfleet ship, she has no arrowhead.

Also, I was thinking (and maybe someone else already said this, but I haven't had time to read all the other threads) these arrowhead pins must be how vital signs are monitored when somebody is away from the ship. That has to be the reason Cornwell took hers off that time with Lorca.

Kor

 

[KirkusOveractus]

So as a prisoner in the mustard jumpsuit, she had the arrowhead to show that she was a Starfleet prisoner (and not civilian), but in a provisional/acting/conditional/whatever duty role on a Starfleet ship, she has no arrowhead.

Also, I was thinking (and maybe someone else already said this, but I haven't had time to read all the other threads) these arrowhead pins must be how vital signs are monitored when somebody is away from the ship. That has to be the reason Cornwell took hers off that time with Lorca.

Kor

I don't know. I just thought it was a "dropping of rank" moment, where they were just people after the insignias came off (and everything else!)

To the OP, I think it's because she's aboard as a Specialist, kind of skirting around her being able to hold a rank in Starfleet again, until she saves Tyree and the Hill People, gets commended for giving Lt. Kirk the credit, and she's given full rank and privilege back.

 

[Kor]

I don't know. I just thought it was a "dropping of rank" moment, where they were just people after the insignias came off (and everything else!)

...

Maybe the arrowhead badge is the thing physically holding the whole uniform together, so it's impossible to take off the uniform without first removing the arrowhead.

Kor

 

[Boomer359]

So as a prisoner in the mustard jumpsuit, she had the arrowhead to show that she was a Starfleet prisoner (and not civilian), but in a provisional/acting/conditional/whatever duty role on a Starfleet ship, she has no arrowhead.

Also, I was thinking (and maybe someone else already said this, but I haven't had time to read all the other threads) these arrowhead pins must be how vital signs are monitored when somebody is away from the ship. That has to be the reason Cornwell took hers off that time with Lorca.

Kor

I got the impression that the delta was added to the jumpsuit to identify it as Starfleet and to distinguish it from the outfits the other prisoners were wearing. With the standard duty uniform, that's not really necessary since it matches everyone else and is, itself, covered in tiny deltas.

As for why she doesn't get a badge on the uniform, I think even a delta without pips must represent a rank.

 

[KirkusOveractus]

Maybe the arrowhead badge is the thing physically holding the whole uniform together, so it's impossible to take off the uniform without first removing the arrowhead.

Kor

They should have done that in a slower speed, some smooth jazz or "boom chicka-wow-wow" music playing...

 

[CorporalClegg]

It does seem odd that there isn't one. The delta is the Starfleet equivalent to the EGA if you will. And like Kor said, there was one on her prison garb.

There's got to be some kind of patch she could wear at least.

 

[Timelord79 (he/him)]

The silver shoulder stripes also show rank btw.
It‘s not just the pips on the badge.

 

[XCV330]

The silver shoulder stripes also show rank btw.
It‘s not just the pips on the badge.

How? I know Captains get shoulderboard colors, and admirals have it on the upper sleeves, but as far as I can tell the should piping just seems to vary by female or male uniform. I may have missed something.

 

[Timelord79 (he/him)]

How? I know Captains get shoulderboard colors, and admirals have it on the upper sleeves, but as far as I can tell the should piping just seems to vary by female or male uniform. I may have missed something.

There is at least a difference between Admirals,Captains and regular crew.
With additional shoulder stripes for command and flag ranks.
Not sure about first officer uniforms.

 

[Mudd]

They put the goddamned chevron on their bed pillows. She should just draw one on her tunic with a glitter marker and be done with it.

 

[Dijeirusan]

It'll be a scene where shit has hit the fan, Lorca is dead, Tilly has been kidnapped, Tyler is a Klingon and Saru has lost all hope. A battered and bruised Burnham climbs her way onto the bridge and the crew turn to her for guidance. Saru realises Burnham is the leader they need. He walks up to her and pins Lorca's badge onto him. "What are your instructions, Captain?"

 

[Mark_Nguyen]

It's the visual equivalent of Seven or Phlox not wearing uniforms. They are a member of the crew and assigned to the ship, but are not fully and truly Starfleet. Seven wore a combadge, but that's probably more a requirement for the technology contained within, and heck EVERYONE on Voyager wore a combadge whether they were in uniform or not (being the TNG era show that most regourously enforced this).

Mark

 

[Ryan Thomas Riddle]

It'll be a scene where shit has hit the fan, Lorca is dead, Tilly has been kidnapped, Tyler is a Klingon and Saru has lost all hope. A battered and bruised Burnham climbs her way onto the bridge and the crew turn to her for guidance. Saru realises Burnham is the leader they need. He walks up to her and pins Lorca's badge onto him. "What are your instructions, Captain?"

Or Lorca goes of the deep end and Burnham has a legit reason to mutiny. This time Saru has to partner up with her for the good of the ship. Starfleet reinstates Burnham and gives her command of Discovery. Saru is her first officer/science officer.

 

[Timo]

It's the visual equivalent of Seven or Phlox not wearing uniforms. They are a member of the crew and assigned to the ship, but are not fully and truly Starfleet. Seven wore a combadge, but that's probably more a requirement for the technology contained within, and heck EVERYONE on Voyager wore a combadge whether they were in uniform or not (being the TNG era show that most regourously enforced this).

Except for Kosinski, who in "WNOHGB" was visiting the ship while working aboard her. Back in TOS, this could have been taken to mean "See, I'm not really from this ship so I don't get to wear your special symbol for this assignment", but now the bookending shows finally establish that there was nothing to the "symbols are ship-specific" myth to begin with.

DSC has some explaining to do anyway. What's with the black badges? It now seems badge color goes with piping color, except for black which IIRC went with standard silver. What has happened to the black badges, and who gets to wear one? Can Burnham get one if she asks nicely, since she already wore one in prison? Are all the blackbadgers ex-cons Lorca has drafted for their special abilities (say, demonstrated skill in killing)?

Timo Saloniemi

 

[Noname Given]

Yes, I know, it's supposed to be because she's been stripped of rank, and since rank on these uniforms is within the Arrowhead, no rank apparently means no Arrowhead. But is there any reason why she can't simply have a blank Arrowhead on her uniform? Her prison uniform had one, so why doesn't her duty uniform?

She's not a ship's officer in any respect - so no badge. She has absolutely no Rank or command authority whatsoever in her current situation.

 

[GeekUSACarl]

Im with those who said they are going to have a fake tear jerk moment of her finally getting it.

If I were her I'd color one in with a sharpie.

 

[Timo]

Neither should the Spacemen 3rd Class, but even they appear to wear badges aboard that ship. Or at least Burnham so far is the only person in uniform who doesn't have a badge.

Timo Saloniemi