Why Do Some Consider Drug Tests Humiliating?

[Capn Flukie]

Hm, someone is probably guilty because they don't want folks to do things to them that they don't want them to.

I'm scheduled for possible jury duty next week. I'll keep this in mind and might even mention it to the judge. Thanks.

 

[DBR]

When I hear the words "right to privacy" my first thought is "something to hide".

Good luck when you decide to run for politics.

And I know lots of people who work in home improvement stores, operate machinery and/or drive fork lifts, and none of them have ever had to do a drug test. I've never known anyone who had to take one at all for any job up here. For some reason, we don't seem to have a ton of drug related workplace mishaps.

Drug testing has become pretty standard in the oil patch (edit: in western Canada). Mandatory when up for hire, random testing on the job.

 

[Dayton3]

If the govt. said tomorrow that drug testing was mandated before people could have a child, or that drug testing was needed before mowing your lawn? You'd just go along with it?

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Before someone could have a child? Not a bad idea though probably impractical due to the fact that 50% of pregnancies are unplanned whether people are married or not.

Mowing the yard? Seems like a waste of time and money but I wouldn't be marching in the streets over it or calling my congressman if it was required.

After all.

The Second Amendment guarantees you the right to keep and bear arms (that protection is fully equal with the Fourth Amendment where some get a right to privacy from).

Yet governments are allowed to REQUIRE passage of a gun safety course if you want a permit to carry (actually bear) those arms.

 

[Dayton3]

So you're saying some guy down at the Home Depot is more of a risk than some guy out here on the road with a SUV? If risk is the reasoning, then why don't we federally mandate drug testing before you can get a license to drive or to buy a car?

Sounds good to me.

Drugs are illegal. There is no protected right to do something that is illegal.

And there is no legal right to drive a vehicle either.

SeerSGB, as soon as I read your post and your question of Dayton3, I was thinking; "You don't know him at all, do you?" Right away, I thought, of course Dayton is gonna' say that's fine with him.

Good to know that we're on the same page Scot.

 

[Dayton3]

Hm, someone is probably guilty because they don't want folks to do things to them that they don't want them to.

I'm scheduled for possible jury duty next week. I'll keep this in mind and might even mention it to the judge. Thanks.

During jury selection for the William Kennedy Smith rape trial, one of the jurors chosen was a man who said flat out in preselection questioning

"I think he (Smith) is guilty".

 

[nx1701g]

And I do not interpret the Fourth Amendment in such a manner. I interpret it as referring to searches and seizures which are for the purpose of obtaining evidence for the criminal prosecution (and thus potential denial of liberty) of individuals.

If you look at the employment contracts for many firms now they include provisions that if they detect illegal drugs in your urine sample they have the right to contact law enforcement for criminal prosecution. Many government contracts have this provision and to get the job you have to sign off on that provision.