Where do the SCE and New Frontier series happen in relaunch timeline?
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If I wasn't about to head to bed I'd type it all out but basically NF takes place from before the Dominion War all the way to after Nemesis, and SCE takes place during the entire DS9 Relaunch.
If I wasn't about to head to bed I'd type it all out but basically NF takes place from before the Dominion War all the way to after Nemesis, and SCE takes place during the entire DS9 Relaunch.
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I'm not sure quite how you're defining "relaunch period," since the various post-finale series begin at different times. But New Frontier predates all of them; its first few volumes were set in 2373, not long after Star Trek: First Contact, late in DS9's fifth season and VGR's third. Since then it's progressed through the timeline and jumped forward at least a couple of times, and the last book to date was in 2380-81 (I gather there's some ambiguity there).
SCE/Corps of Engineers is much more constrained; aside from flashback stories, it begins early in 2376, shortly after the end of DS9, and ends in the latter half of 2377.
I'm not sure quite how you're defining "relaunch period," since the various post-finale series begin at different times. But New Frontier predates all of them; its first few volumes were set in 2373, not long after Star Trek: First Contact, late in DS9's fifth season and VGR's third. Since then it's progressed through the timeline and jumped forward at least a couple of times, and the last book to date was in 2380-81 (I gather there's some ambiguity there).
SCE/Corps of Engineers is much more constrained; aside from flashback stories, it begins early in 2376, shortly after the end of DS9, and ends in the latter half of 2377.
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^So it starts at about the same time as the DS9 Reluanch, for instance #6: Cold Fusion, follows the SCE crew and Nog as they tow Empok Nor to the Bajor system, and leads directly into the DS9 Relaunch novel Abyss.
^So it starts at about the same time as the DS9 Reluanch, for instance #6: Cold Fusion, follows the SCE crew and Nog as they tow Empok Nor to the Bajor system, and leads directly into the DS9 Relaunch novel Abyss.
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Well, like you say, that is SCE #6, and it comes between DS9 post-finale #2 & #3. So SCE starts a little earlier. By my estimates, SCE begins about a month before Avatar, the start of the post-finale DS9 series proper.
Well, like you say, that is SCE #6, and it comes between DS9 post-finale #2 & #3. So SCE starts a little earlier. By my estimates, SCE begins about a month before Avatar, the start of the post-finale DS9 series proper.
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Book 1 of NF starts shortly after First Contact with the Excalibur being refitted after the battle with the Borg Cube. They ran fairly continually then there is a gap after which Shelby is an admiral and runs a starbase.
I'm not to sure how well NF fits in with the relaunch novels but Calhoun and company are mentioned in Before Dishonor and Destiny.
Book 1 of NF starts shortly after First Contact with the Excalibur being refitted after the battle with the Borg Cube. They ran fairly continually then there is a gap after which Shelby is an admiral and runs a starbase.
I'm not to sure how well NF fits in with the relaunch novels but Calhoun and company are mentioned in Before Dishonor and Destiny.
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the NF novels 1-6 run through the year after FC as said.
Double Helix is post Dominion War and INS. (due to them skipping a year via time-travel in the first comic)
7-14 take place subsequent to that, with 9-11 taking place over a 3-month period.
After the Fall takes place shortly before the events of NEM and then slightly after (the death of Hiren is mentioned as taking place partway through) IIRC.
the last 3 take place roughly over several months following NEM, but BMB has some post-Destiny stuff in, placing it in 2381.
the NF novels 1-6 run through the year after FC as said.
Double Helix is post Dominion War and INS. (due to them skipping a year via time-travel in the first comic)
7-14 take place subsequent to that, with 9-11 taking place over a 3-month period.
After the Fall takes place shortly before the events of NEM and then slightly after (the death of Hiren is mentioned as taking place partway through) IIRC.
the last 3 take place roughly over several months following NEM, but BMB has some post-Destiny stuff in, placing it in 2381.
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I have read BMB a couple of times and I was under the impression it fell in late 2480 prior to Destiny. What were the post-Destiny references mentioned?
I have read BMB a couple of times and I was under the impression it fell in late 2480 prior to Destiny. What were the post-Destiny references mentioned?
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In the first couple chapters focused on Seven they make references to the fact that she's lost her Borg implants, and to the fact that the Borg themselves are no longer around.
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Thanks for that. Having re-read that chapter more closely it definitely implies that BMB occurs post-Destiny. However, given this I can’t see how BMB can fit in with the post-Destiny continuity set-up within the Destiny series & the other post-Destiny books:
In BMB Jellico is still a part of Starfleet however within the post-Destiny continuity he had resigned by March 2381 (Losing the Peace), which would mean BMB would have to be placed sometime between mid to late February and March. However Nechayev is still a senior Admiral in Starfleet in LTP – which means that between BMB & LTP (a period of approximately 6 weeks at most) Starfleet had to locate the real Nechayev who they don’t even know for certainty exists, rescue her, have her fully recover from the ordeal of being replaced and resume active duty – and all this has to occur while they are recovering from the death of billions of Federation citizens, billions more left homeless following the complete destruction of numerous worlds & the loss of nearly half of Starfleet.
In Treason the New Thallonian Protectorate was still not part of the Federation, yet by BMB they had already joined. I thought the timespan between these books cannot be too long if they are still only just completing the operation to attach Arex’s arm, maybe a month at most. While it is understandable the Federation Council may fast-track a sovereign state’s membership if they had some resource that the Federation needed with some urgency yet this is also a state that has only existed for approximately 3 years & has had two of its senior state officials assassinated less than 2-years before (Si Cwan during an internal coup & Fhermus by someone that at the time could still be argued was a representative of Starfleet). So if Treason is set pre-Destiny & BMB is set post-Destiny it is difficult to believe the Federation Council would take time to vote on their membership and officialise it during an invasion where they are facing annihilation or so soon after given the chaos which would be occurring.
Also it raises the question on why the Trident is still under repair – if the Borg invasion had occurred in between the books wouldn’t they have rushed the repairs on the Trident as quickly as possible as soon as the threat became known to at least assist with evacuations, yet it is still under repair but the Excalibur which was crippled during the invasion against the Borg is already up and running again.
Also the Seven in BMB does not fit in with the Seven in the post-Destiny continuity – in BMB she seems to be coping okay so soon after the loss of her Borg technology and has had time to visit a family friend for at least 6 days before Soleta reached her, yet in the post-Destiny continuity by April she is on the verge of a break-down & her Aunt is dying from a terminal illness – given her Aunt was her only family and someone she cared for deeply, it seems unlikely Seven would just up and leave at this time to visit someone without it being an emergency. Furthermore in Full Circle it states that April is the first time the Doctor had seen Seven since the loss of her Borg technology, yet in BMB they are together.
Thanks for that. Having re-read that chapter more closely it definitely implies that BMB occurs post-Destiny. However, given this I can’t see how BMB can fit in with the post-Destiny continuity set-up within the Destiny series & the other post-Destiny books:
In BMB Jellico is still a part of Starfleet however within the post-Destiny continuity he had resigned by March 2381 (Losing the Peace), which would mean BMB would have to be placed sometime between mid to late February and March. However Nechayev is still a senior Admiral in Starfleet in LTP – which means that between BMB & LTP (a period of approximately 6 weeks at most) Starfleet had to locate the real Nechayev who they don’t even know for certainty exists, rescue her, have her fully recover from the ordeal of being replaced and resume active duty – and all this has to occur while they are recovering from the death of billions of Federation citizens, billions more left homeless following the complete destruction of numerous worlds & the loss of nearly half of Starfleet.
In Treason the New Thallonian Protectorate was still not part of the Federation, yet by BMB they had already joined. I thought the timespan between these books cannot be too long if they are still only just completing the operation to attach Arex’s arm, maybe a month at most. While it is understandable the Federation Council may fast-track a sovereign state’s membership if they had some resource that the Federation needed with some urgency yet this is also a state that has only existed for approximately 3 years & has had two of its senior state officials assassinated less than 2-years before (Si Cwan during an internal coup & Fhermus by someone that at the time could still be argued was a representative of Starfleet). So if Treason is set pre-Destiny & BMB is set post-Destiny it is difficult to believe the Federation Council would take time to vote on their membership and officialise it during an invasion where they are facing annihilation or so soon after given the chaos which would be occurring.
Also it raises the question on why the Trident is still under repair – if the Borg invasion had occurred in between the books wouldn’t they have rushed the repairs on the Trident as quickly as possible as soon as the threat became known to at least assist with evacuations, yet it is still under repair but the Excalibur which was crippled during the invasion against the Borg is already up and running again.
Also the Seven in BMB does not fit in with the Seven in the post-Destiny continuity – in BMB she seems to be coping okay so soon after the loss of her Borg technology and has had time to visit a family friend for at least 6 days before Soleta reached her, yet in the post-Destiny continuity by April she is on the verge of a break-down & her Aunt is dying from a terminal illness – given her Aunt was her only family and someone she cared for deeply, it seems unlikely Seven would just up and leave at this time to visit someone without it being an emergency. Furthermore in Full Circle it states that April is the first time the Doctor had seen Seven since the loss of her Borg technology, yet in BMB they are together.
Re: Where do the SCE and New Frontier series happen in relaunch timeli
yeah, there's not really much of an easy way to rationalise the differences over Seven.
Jellico could've stood down as the C-In-C, but still remain in the Fleet and Nechayev in LTP could well be the dupe. that's easy to rationalise.
yeah, there's not really much of an easy way to rationalise the differences over Seven.
Jellico could've stood down as the C-In-C, but still remain in the Fleet and Nechayev in LTP could well be the dupe. that's easy to rationalise.
Re: Where do the SCE and New Frontier series happen in relaunch timeli
Peter David's approach to continuity...
Peter David's approach to continuity...
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Although, when continuity errors are pointed out, he sometimes goes to lengths to "fix" them in future installments.
Peter David's approach to continuity...
Although, when continuity errors are pointed out, he sometimes goes to lengths to "fix" them in future installments.
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he never did a fix on Selar's furniture...
he never did a fix on Selar's furniture...
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Actually, the wayward couch made a cameo appearance in the WildStorm comic.
Actually, the wayward couch made a cameo appearance in the WildStorm comic.
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