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Where are the Trek films in your best movie lists?

The Laughing Vulcan

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Much as I enjoy Trek, and even some of the films.

I'd have to admit that when it comes to good movies full stop, they don't rate very highly. There are films with better stories, better effects, better direction, better acting...

Even my favourite Trek movie, TWOK, would have a hard time scraping my top 100 films. I enjoy the films for continuing and adding to the Trek canon, and they can be fun, but I would never consider them classic cinema...

Am I a snob?

Where do the Trek films lie in your appreciation of cinema as a whole?
 
The Laughing Vulcan said:
Am I a snob?
Where do the Trek films lie in your appreciation of cinema as a whole?

Yep. ST:TMP is my all-time favourite movie, but the rest of the ST films (except maybe ST V) are up on my list, interspersed along with "Barbarella", "Silent Running", "84 Charing Cross Road", "George of the Jungle", "Superman: The Movie", "Superman Returns", "Batman", "Batman Forever", "Fantastic Four", "The Lord of the Rings" trilogy, "Number 96", "Time After Time", "Somewhere in Time", "Forbidden Planet", "TAPS", "Harvey" and "Galaxy Quest".
 
1. The Big Lebowski
2. Ghostbusters
3. RoboCop
4. Terminator 2: Judgment Day
5. Dr. Strangelove
6. Back to the Future
7. Star Trek: The Motion Picture
8. The Lost World: Jurassic Park
9. Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas
10. Tomorrow Never Dies
 
It's been a while since I put one of these together, but the only one that would probably crack my Top 25 would be The Wrath of Khan.
 
The Wrath of Khan is my favourite movie of all time.

Is it the best film of all time? Perhaps not.

Still my favourite.
 
Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home and Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country are in my Top 100.

Star Trek: The Motion Picture did not make the list, eventhough I consider it superior to The Voyage Home, because with a film like 2001: A Space Odyssey making the list and the Russian classic Solaris not making the list, I had to leave it out. But if 2001 and Solaris did not exist, you can bet The Motion Picture would most definitely be one of the films up there for me. :cool:
 
Umm, generally in a different category. There are enough of them that I rate them in their own kind of "sub-genre" and only find it fair to rank them against each other (like another franchies like Harry Potter and Star Wars)

If pressed the only one that makes it onto the list is Wrath of Khan.
 
Star Trek The Motion Picture is my favourite movie!

Here is my top 10 movie list for today

1. Star Trek The Motion Picture
2. 2001 A Space Odyssey
3. Forbidden Planet
4. Team America World Police
5. Dr Strangeglove
6. Star Wars IV a New Hope
7. Star Wars V The Empire Strikes Back
8. Star Trek II The Wrath of Kahn
9. Day of the Dead
10. Dawn of the Dead
 
Treks 1, 2, 4 and 6 would be in my Top Ten.

I certainly have watched these four films more than any others.

I reckon I've seen TWOK over 100 times :lol:
 
"Star Trek II" is the only one that makes it into the top 50, and by comparison to "Lawrence of Arabia," "North by Northwest," "The Guns of Navarone," or "Goldfinger," it's just a TV show with a bigger budget.
 
The Laughing Vulcan said:
Much as I enjoy Trek, and even some of the films.

I'd have to admit that when it comes to good movies full stop, they don't rate very highly. There are films with better stories, better effects, better direction, better acting...

Even my favourite Trek movie, TWOK, would have a hard time scraping my top 100 films. I enjoy the films for continuing and adding to the Trek canon, and they can be fun, but I would never consider them classic cinema...

Am I a snob?

Where do the Trek films lie in your appreciation of cinema as a whole?

I don't think you are a snob at all.

I am just about as enthusiastic and loyal about Trek as anyone, I think. I've been a Trekker since the mid-sixties, and the Trek films are certainly "must-see" for me, and of course I own them all, and watch them frequently.

But if I'm honest, and must compare Trek films to ALL films, and I must put even the best Trek movie up against films like "The Day the Earth Stood Still", "Mr. Smith Goes to Washington"(or almost anything with Jimmy Stewart) "North by Northwest"(or almost anything by Hitchcock), "Casablanca", "The Sixth Sense(though I know some people hate that movie, it seems very polarizing, but I certainly have it as one of my favorites), "All about Eve", "To Kill a Mockingbirg" (or almost anything with Gregory Peck), the list goes on.

It's just hard to see any Trek film edging one of the great classics out of the top ten.

I think that TWOK, TUC, FC and TMP would be in my top 50 somewhere, though it's hard to say where.

I'm not even sure they would appear in my top ten favorite SF movies alone. Though they'd surely be in my top twenty five.
 
No Trek movies make it into my top ten, either. In no particular order:

1. Star Wars Episode IV
2. Raiders of the Lost Ark
3. Star Wars Episode V
4. Ben-Hur
5. 2001
6. MASH
7. West Side Story
8. The Blues Brothers
9. King Kong (1933)
10.The Kentucky Fried Movie

No snooty art films on my list. There are certainly "better" films, but I like these because I can watch them over and over again, and enjoy something new or different every time. I went to most of them multiple times in the theater; I can't make that claim about any Trek movies. In fact, I only saw 5 of the Trek movies in the theater (TMP, II, III, FC and INS)
 
"Star Trek: First Contact" is the only one I've ever considered a top ten favourite movie of all time. I've ranked it as high as 8, but sometimes I change my mind and stick it somewhere outside the top 10. When I've thought about expanding my list to top 25 or 30, I could see "Star II" and "Star Trek IV" being in there too.

I generally think of my top ten as the ones that I can watch the most times and still enjoy just as much on repeat viewings as I did on previous ones, 'cause I always get a stronger emotional kick from those movies than any others, and watching them always feels like some special occasion.

Having watched "Star Trek: First Contact" again recently, I'm definitely feeling that way about it. For the moment, I like to think of it as a top ten favourite, and my list would go something like this (in the past I've booted it out of the top ten for Manhattan, Twelve Monkeys, Adaptation, Halloween '78, or Bride of Frankensetein):

1. Scarface
2. Say Anything
3. Before Sunrise
4. The Sure Thing
5. Swingers
6. Ed Wood
7. Terminator 2: Judgment Day
8. X2: X-Men United
9. One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest
10. Star Trek: First Contact
 
Probably my top favorite films of all time are:
TMP
Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back
Star Wars: A New Hope
The Fifth Element
War of the Worlds (orginial)
Forbidden Planet
The Village

Those are just a few and not in order.
 
Nice to see Forbidden Planet getting so much love. It's one of those great science fiction films like "2001: A Space Odyssey", "Alien", "Aliens", and "The Day the Earth Stood Still" that I think influenced Star Trek very much, and yet I like my favourite Star Trek movies better than I like them. I don't think they are better than these movies from an objective perspective, but seeing characters I love so much in stories that take elements from those makes them more enjoyable to me.

"Mr. Smith Goes to Washington"(or almost anything with Jimmy Stewart)
Ugh, I can't stand that guy. His voice and body language annoy the hell out of me. Other than his looks, I don't see why he was so popular or successful. I think any movies he's in that are good (i.e. "It's a Wonderful Life" and "Philadelphia Story") are good in spite of him, and I've now seen two Hitchcock movies that I think would have been much better off without him ("Vertigo" and "Rear Window"). I love those Simpsons episodes that tease him by having one of the actors play a caricature of him. :p
 
Hmm..

On my Top 25 would be:


1. Wall*E
2. Spaceballs
3. Finding Nemo
4. Star Trek (2009)
5. K-PAX
6. Love! Valour! Compassion!
7. The Man From Earth
8. Star Trek V: The Final Frontier
9. Leap of Faith
10. The Illusionist
11. Moulin Rouge!
12. Ghostbusters I
13. Y Tu Mama Tambien
14. Forbidden Planet
15. The Egyptian
16. Fried Green Tomatoes
17. Star Trek: The Motion Picture (Director's Cut)
18. Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade
19. Star Trek: First Contact
20. Back to the Future I
21. The Day The Earth Stood Still (1951)
22. Monsters Inc.
23. Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home
24. Les Cage Aux Folles
25. Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back


J.
 
If we're going for "critically good," Wrath of Khan would be the only film that stands a chance of making my list. If we're going for "favorite to watch," it's probably the same difference, though I could see the new Abrams film making that list as well.
 
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