When does DS9 get good? (No spoilers please)

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Deep Space Nine' started by Thowra, May 27, 2021.

  1. Thowra

    Thowra Lieutenant Red Shirt

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    I’m on series 2, episode 2.

    I'm not interested in Bajoran politics and religion bores me.

    I was determined to sit it out until it got as good as people say it does, but my interest is waning.
     
  2. NCC-73515

    NCC-73515 Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Series 2 is TAS or TNG :p
     
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  3. kkt

    kkt Commodore Commodore

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    The general consensus is that it picks up in season 3. But if you don't like it don't feel like it's some sort of obligation or rite of passage.
     
  4. dupersuper

    dupersuper Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Well, I really liked the pilot...
     
  5. Relayer1

    Relayer1 Vice Admiral Admiral

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    I felt a lot like you at first, but the episode "Progress" gave a pretty strong indication of the shows potential.

    I'd say it starts to hit it's stride by season three. It's still easily my favourite Trek show, and probably always will be.
     
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    I like the first seasons because they lay out the groundwork for latter seasons, like with Bashir and O'Brien, the Dominion etc. So I advise to keep on watching it and by the last episode you will love it
     
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  7. Swedish Borg

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    Well, there are many episodes that are neither about religion (the prophets, Pah Wraith... what have you) nor Bajoran politics.

    Klingons, Dominion, Ferengi, Cardassians, Mirror Universe, Gamma Quadrant, Trill, Holosuite, problems on the station, time travel, Jemadar... A little bit of this a little bit of that!!!
     
  8. ananta

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    You didn’t find “Duet” good? “Progress”, “In the Hands of the Prophets”? Or the opening three-parter? If you really don’t like Bajor episodes, you’ll be pleased to know they were dramatically scaled back from the third season onward as a major new villain is introduced. The focus of the series dramatically shifts more than once. Season three gets better and better with some stunning episodes, and season four is one of the episode-to-episode strongest seasons in the entire franchise. Be patient, it’s like reading a novel. Take it easy and let it unfold.

    That said, some second season episodes you can happily skip, because they’re a bit shit/mediocre: “Melora”, “Second Sight”, “Sanctuary”, “Rivals”, “Profit and Loss”.
    Essential episodes: “Necessary Evil”, “Shadowplay”, “Blood Oath”, “The Maquis”, “The Wire”, “Crossover”, “The Collaborator”, “The Jem’Hadar”.
     
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  9. Bry_Sinclair

    Bry_Sinclair Vice Admiral Admiral

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    From "Emissary".
     
  10. Boris Skrbic

    Boris Skrbic Commodore Commodore

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    As of 2021? When it’s remastered.
     
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  11. Thowra

    Thowra Lieutenant Red Shirt

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    It’s the only series I’ve never watched and I want something new - I was hoping to see it differently through older eyes and fall in love with a new series
     
  12. Thowra

    Thowra Lieutenant Red Shirt

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    I liked the first episodes, but they started getting 'samey'. Yet another ferengi episode (although I don’t hate them), yet another political or religious episode.

    I don’t want to knock it, I’m hoping to be grabbed by it at some point :hugegrin:
     
  13. Thowra

    Thowra Lieutenant Red Shirt

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    I'm not saying I've hated every episode, but they’re starting to blur together a little too much (and I don’t want to give up on it).
     
  14. Boris Skrbic

    Boris Skrbic Commodore Commodore

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    I’d give up on the show until it’s remastered. I still believe it’s only a matter of time, so there is no point to sitting through all that SD video from the 1990s in this day and age. When that happens, you can skip to Season 3 for a bit more excitement and even more character-driven writing, but the writers like their worldbuilding and various bits from S2 inform future episodes also.
     
  15. Swedish Borg

    Swedish Borg Commodore Captain

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    Don't hold your breath.
     
  16. Captain Kris Kringle Pike

    Captain Kris Kringle Pike Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Remastering is overrated. Good stories are good stories.
     
  17. Boris Skrbic

    Boris Skrbic Commodore Commodore

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    I don’t, since I watched DS9 too many times before (U)HD TVs began revealing video flaws. I would rewatch it all again, just not in upscaled SD.
     
  18. JesterFace

    JesterFace Fleet Captain Commodore

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    If an episode is good, it's good. Watching it from VHS for example doesn't ruin it.

    Watching TNG on bluray quality is nice though. I won't probably go back....
     
  19. kkt

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    It doesn't need to be remastered any more than Casablanca needs to be colorized.
     
  20. NCC-73515

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    My favorites in the 2nd half of S2 are:
    Whispers, Paradise, Shadowplay, Blood Oath, Crossover, The Collaborator, Tribunal.
    Read a summary, watch the teasers, you might like some of those.
     
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