Order 67 was so close
Order 69 and it's straight to the pleather dome for them
I wouldn't read anything into that. It's just the name of an ability on SWGOH character kit!
Like I said; more likely he would have ruled from the shadows with Dooku or some other public figure as a figurehead. It would be a bit much if the Supreme Chancellor where to show up on Raxus with a false mustache and just act like he belongs there!
Palpatine only took power be cause he got there by (so far as the public knew) legitimate means. Dooku was similarly elected into his position from his years supporting their cause. I mean no government is just going to let some random weirdo assume power, not matter how tall or spangly and golden his bathrobe is!
Palpatine was already working with Dooku before Naboo. The plan for the clones was in motion. Maul was still in play. Had Maul not been cut down, Dooku would either not have been made a Sith and simply remain an ally for the coming war, or he and Maul would have had to play off each other until Palpatine decided who should be the apprentice. Maul would likely do as he later did, disrupt, then control the Underworld so the Sith have control over that as well as the eventual Separatists and the Republic. It would be more coordinated than what happened.
If there was no Anakin Skywalker to tempt, either Dooku or Maul would continue to do for Palpatine's purposes. Events were already in motion. Anakin just brings a wildcard into the picture.
If there was no Anakin Skywalker to tempt, either Dooku or Maul would continue to do for Palpatine's purposes. Events were already in motion. Anakin just brings a wildcard into the picture.
Order 65 was the same in Legends.
I wouldn't be surprised if it stayed the same if they ever decided to explain the other orders again.
Dooku was literally elected?
I wouldn't read anything into that. It's just the name of an ability on SWGOH character kit!
Like I said; more likely he would have ruled from the shadows with Dooku or some other public figure as a figurehead. It would be a bit much if the Supreme Chancellor where to show up on Raxus with a false mustache and just act like he belongs there!
Palpatine only took power be cause he got there by (so far as the public knew) legitimate means. Dooku was similarly elected into his position from his years supporting their cause. I mean no government is just going to let some random weirdo assume power, not matter how tall or spangly and golden his bathrobe is!
I know it's not cannon, but the Vong invasion explains everything.
The approach of thousands of extra-galactic planet sized colony ships still decades away.
That makes Palpatine a hero, and everything he did, building Death Stars, made sense.
Why would Dracula exterminate 4 billion humans just because Van Heilsing is a party pooper?
How big was Parliament?
10 representatives, 100 representatives, or 100,000 representatives?
69 Electors Voted George Washington into office.
I'm still wondering how a Jedi "retires"?
I assume it's service or prison, since the Jedi need warm bodies, and lo they had not been seen in a thousand years, the Sith are always looking for a stray from the herd to corrupt.
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You can just walk away from the Jedi Order. It is not like the Psi Corps where you need to join, be jailed, or take suppression drugs. Judging by the twenty busts of the "Lost" only twenty major Jedi Masters walked away from the Order within the time the Temple was standing.
If they come and get you as a baby so the Sith don't take you, there's no way they'll let you out without being force castrated, if such a thing is even possible, because the Sith are still looking for recruits.
Celibate Anikan wanted to bang Padme, which is against the rules, but he didn't want to, or couldn't quit being a Jedi which would open up wide his dating pool, and who said he couldn't fight in the grand army as not a Jedi?
Seriously? If I quit the Jedi, Annie thinks, the Old Republic will lose the war, and all the Jedi will be asked to work for the bad guys or quit... Or I can be the worst Jedi, ignore the rules, defeat the Seperatists and bang my secret wife,leaving me much vulnerable to the Sith.
I actually think Amadalla losing her job over a sex scandal is probably way more on point, than what that boy had going on.
It's pretty clear that the plan was intended to always have Dooku as the public face, though it's questionable whether Sidious had expected to keep Maul around.
For one thing, as you say the clones were already in play before Maul was cut down, and Jango specifically says he was recruited by a man named Tyranus. So Darth or not, he was already using his Sith pseudonym before he killed Yaddle.
The whole Rule of Two thing is always a bit of a shell game. The Master is always looking for a better Apprentice, and the Apprentice is always looking for an Acolyte of their own so they can eliminate the Master and keep the murder wheel turning.
Only Palpatine really knew what the plan actually was and how it differed from what anyone else might have thought it was, or what they thought their true position was. So there's every chance that Palpatine had already convinced Dooku that Maul was a mere assassin and that he would be the true Sith apprentice.
Same basic dynamic happened with Ventress; Dooku recruited her fully intending to train her up to the point where they could both take on Sidious and replace him as the Sith Lord, and likely told her that she was indeed a true Sith Apprentice. But to Sidious, he would claim that she was merely an assassin and that his loyalty was unwavering. Palpatine saw through all of this of course, and allowed him to keep her so long as she was useful and didn't become powerful enough to be a threat. We all know what happened when that threshold was crossed, and that Dooku went right ahead and doubled down on exactly the same plan with Savage.
Most of them especially when they're apprentices would be harmless without the resources of the Jedi or the Republic. Every now and then were those way more powerful. The old Tales of the Jedi (EU/comics) RPG had the "Jedi Shadows" who watched out for the Sith, etc but also might run into the oddball Akira style "wild talents" and would discreetly watch those who were more powerful would deal with them if they needed to and/or put the word out for a Jedi Master or Watchman, if they couldn't.
Anakin's problem is that he likes the power his has and won't willing give it up. Especially after losing his mother. So while he could just walk away, live with Padme openly, even volunteer to fight for the Republic, he would not be a Jedi and had reduced access to the Temple and what knowledge is inside.
Ahsoka walked away without issue from the Jedi. She was still outcast enough to not be involved in Jedi matters (which leads to problems with information exchange in the last days of the war). But they didn't have people watching her, or drugging her.
It is mentioned that, over time, if you don't use your powers you lose them, or your connection with the Force dims enough that you are a much weaker user.
As for Maul and Dooku. It seems like Dooku was already working on the cloning project through Sifo-Dyas, but they had not yet gone to get a template before Maul killed Qui-Gon. It seems like Dooku had already had Sifo-Dyas killed by the time he returned to Coruscant and found out about Qui-Gon's death. After killing Yaddle and getting his Sith name, he goes out to find a template for the army, as they are ten years old when the Clone Wars starts, just ten years after the Battle of Naboo. The timing is extremely close with almost no wiggle room.
Ahsoka walked away without issue from the Jedi. She was still outcast enough to not be involved in Jedi matters (which leads to problems with information exchange in the last days of the war). But they didn't have people watching her, or drugging her.
It is mentioned that, over time, if you don't use your powers you lose them, or your connection with the Force dims enough that you are a much weaker user.
As for Maul and Dooku. It seems like Dooku was already working on the cloning project through Sifo-Dyas, but they had not yet gone to get a template before Maul killed Qui-Gon. It seems like Dooku had already had Sifo-Dyas killed by the time he returned to Coruscant and found out about Qui-Gon's death. After killing Yaddle and getting his Sith name, he goes out to find a template for the army, as they are ten years old when the Clone Wars starts, just ten years after the Battle of Naboo. The timing is extremely close with almost no wiggle room.
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Well, there's retirement where an elder Jedi start talking lighter duties, naps a lot more, and spends less and less time outside the temple until they need hospice care, and then there's the retirement when a Jedi formally renounces their title and walks out the door. Yes, it's that simple. Being a Jedi is never an obligation, it is a choice. There's no law against being force sensitive and just living one's life in the galaxy . . . not under the Republic, anyway. The Empire, First Order, and Chiss Ascendancy are different matters.
Dooku left the Order on what was at the time reasonably amicable terms. He no longer held the title of Jedi Master, but out of enduring respect they gave him dispensation to keep his lightsaber; typically it is expected that a Jedi would surrender their weapon before leaving.
I once was playing in a Star Wars RPG where, on a lark, the GM decided to make my character Force-sensitive. Being a generally good-natured sort, he went to the Jedi, who proceeded to turn him down for training, and in the course of adventuring he discovered a Sith holocron. The game didn't last long enough for this plot to really develop, but it did seem to raise the question of what's an adult who realizes they're Force-sensitive supposed to do if they want to develop their powers responsibly? There doesn't seem to be an equivalent to the Xavier Institute in the Star Wars universe, that I'm aware of.
