What do you think the music should be like in Star Trek XI?

[Charlie Kelly]

Despite the up and downs of quality in the films, one thing that has remained consistent is the fantastic scores each film gave us (with maybe one or two exceptions). For someone who has all of the film scores on CD the music is going to be very important for me in this film. I for one hope who ever ends up scoring don’t forget the great music and composers who have preceded them. One thing I can never stand is when a composer has too much of an ego to even reference earlier works (although often this can be down to copyright issues another I have a gripe with).

Every Star Trek film contained the Star Trek fan fare, most opened with it. Also as half the films where scored by the late Jerry Goldsmith, half of them had a lot of continuity as far as themes go. I really hope we at least get the Star Trek fan fare and who ever composes this doesn't have an ego so big he/she ignores it. Don't get me wrong, I want most of it to be new and original but I don't want it to all be new and original because Star Trek has a lot of history.

I think the music should play an important role in the film, some films have background scores that you don't even notice (much like the TV scores in modern Trek). But the Star Trek films have always had scores that are very in your face and that's why I love them. You can't forget them just as you can't forget what is happening on screen. I'm not saying I want the music to take such a big role as it did in TMP (although I wouldn't complain), but I do want it to be more than just filler. I want it to be special.

I just want them to do justice to the score. The very first Star Trek film set a very high bar for the following movies. I want to see this film at least try and reach it.

I dunno, I'm rambling on here. What do you guys think?

Charlie

 

[chardman]

Re: What do you think the music should be like in Star Trek

I'd be happy with some big orchestral arrangements of the original theme, as well as the original incidental music. This is, after all, a big screen version of TOS, and it should sound, within reason, like TOS.

 

[Superman]

Re: What do you think the music should be like in Star Trek

Sadly, I don't think they're going to use too much of the original music outside of the Courage/Goldsmith fanfare.

This is sad, because the TMP Goldsmith score is timeless and epic. I listened to it today in the car and it just takes you to the stars. It's amazing stuff.

Hopefully, the music will be what all of Goldsmith's Trek music was: memorable. Not just that filler crap we hear in so much of today's scores.

I also think Abrams should get Joel Goldsmith or just go see what Jim Horner is up to.

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[cardinal biggles]

Re: What do you think the music should be like in Star Trek

He's going to use Michael Giacchino, who I think is an outstanding composer.

 

[Caliburn24]

Re: What do you think the music should be like in Star Trek

I agree, Giacchino is one of the most creative composers working today imo, and should put together a fantatic score.

But I still wish they'd let Horner take another crack at Trek music. To me his work was the best Trek ever had.

 

[Superman]

Re: What do you think the music should be like in Star Trek

Not familiar with this guy, outside of the work I imagine he's done for Abrams in the past.

I just hope the music's inspiring and yet human at the same time. Uplifting, but approachable.

Yeah, there's an easy combination...

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[AJBryant]

Re: What do you think the music should be like in Star Trek

chardman said:
I'd be happy with some big orchestral arrangements of the original theme, as well as the original incidental music. This is, after all, a big screen version of TOS, and it should sound, within reason, like TOS.

Agreed. It would be really cool if there were a fight sequence and we heard the familiar "da da daa daa daa daa daa da da da da" -- only with a full orchestration.

Essentially the way most of the Bond films have worked in the 007 and Bond themes into the music.

Tony

 

[Cary L. Brown]

Re: What do you think the music should be like in Star Trek

I'm hopeful that we'll hear stuff that's consistent, in terms of general feel, to some of the 1st-season TOS soundtracks. I want to hear the "Enterprise in orbit" brass fanfare (which hasn't been heard in ANY Trek movie), or the lonely/haunting "episode closing" motif... all the stuff that brings "Trek" to mind for many of us but which nobody has revisited in 40-odd years now. I would be perfectly happy to hear neither the Alexander Courage fanfare, nor the TOS opening credits theme... and as much as I love Jerry Goldsmith's work throughout his career, I don't want to hear the TMP/TNG theme in any way, shape or form.

Go back to the earliest TOS stuff if you need to "borrow" at all, and come up with entirely new orchestral stuff where those themes don't fit.

 

[Superman]

Re: What do you think the music should be like in Star Trek

We'll have to agree to disagree.

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[Plum]

Re: What do you think the music should be like in Star Trek

I know what instrument I'd like to hear.

Bongos... like the original theme had... I would like to hear bongos.

Really, is that so weird? Bongos!

 

[Jack Bauer]

Re: What do you think the music should be like in Star Trek

In his mission: Impossible 3 soundtrack Giacchino used some music cues from the tv show in his score. I would not be surprised if he does so here.

 

[cardinal biggles]

Re: What do you think the music should be like in Star Trek

You know what the Trek XI score is going to need?

MORE COWBELL!

 

[drasche]

Re: What do you think the music should be like in Star Trek

cardinal biggles said:
He's going to use Michael Giacchino, who I think is an outstanding composer.

I remember his work from the video games Medal of Honor and Call of Duty. Those were great music scores (I was very fond of Medal of Honor's). I didn't listen anything from him since then but I look forward to hear the future Trek music score.

 

[Thomas E. Johnson]

Re: What do you think the music should be like in Star Trek

I hope that the movie features a traditional symphonic/orchestral score, with some operatic vocalization provided by Sarah Brightman, whom I feel has one of the greatest voices ever.

 

[Woulfe]

Re: What do you think the music should be like in Star Trek

cardinal biggles said:
You know what the Trek XI score is going to need?

MORE COWBELL!

* Goes into Cristopher Walken mode *

I have a fevor, and the only cure is, more cowbell !

- W -
* Who can do a pretty good Christopher Walken *

 

[Stardate]

Re: What do you think the music should be like in Star Trek

I don't want to hear the TMP/TNG theme in any way, shape or form.

I have do disagree with TMP who is a masterpice and hopefully some of it clues will be used in XI. Michael Giacchino did ineed use MI TV clues in MI3 who worked great.
Michael Giacchino scould also try somethink new sound like blastersound in TMP

 

[Warp Coil]

Re: What do you think the music should be like in Star Trek

I have a feeling that Giacchino will use some of the more important cues from Trek (like the TMP fanfare) but will probably do something original with most of the music. I'm actually really looking forward to it. I really started to get tired of Goldsmith's soundstracks after a while (INS and NEM were fairly weak in comparison to the previous soundtracks).

 

[cardinal biggles]

Re: What do you think the music should be like in Star Trek

I think if Giacchino reuses any musical cues from Trek, it'll be stuff from TOS, not TMP. I'm particularly looking forward to the return of the dramatic orchestra sting (DA-daaaaa! DA-daaaaa! DA-daaaaa!) in some form.

 

[LoneStranger]

Re: What do you think the music should be like in Star Trek

Don't forget Loulie Jean Norman's vocal melody!

 

[Irishman]

Re: What do you think the music should be like in Star Trek

Just not Dennis McCarthy. He's been writing Trek musical cues for so long I imagine he dreams it. They're all too incidental and monotonous.

I'd much prefer a creative use of the TOS musical scores rather than anything from the later series/movies. With one exception - the TMP Klingon theme song. TOO BAD!! TOO KICK-ASS!!

But anything from Courage if his estate will allow it. The same from Fred Steiner, Sol Kaplan, George Duning, or of course Gerald Fried's "duh duh DUH DUH DUH DUH duh duh duh duh"!

Such a deep pool from which to draw, if, of course, they are able to.