Meh. I'll go with what's on screen since there's no reason to doubt the intent of the writer.
What do you think of Steven W. Carabatsos' TOS episodes?
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Meh. I'll go with what's on screen since there's no reason to doubt the intent of the writer.
Again, can you please start your own thread on Kirk's age in "The Deadly Years" if you want to talk about it so much? Carabatsos was long gone from TOS when that episode was done, so it's a really off-topic digression.
The Starlog magazine Carabastos interview from issue 168 (July 1991) can be found online (page 60) at
https://ia600500.us.archive.org/32/items/starlog_magazine-168/168.pdf
https://ia600500.us.archive.org/32/items/starlog_magazine-168/168.pdf
Yeah, to be candid there isn't much meat there. And he echoes what many others have said before him.
The writing staff took many casualties...even Gene Coon only lasted a year. JDF Black, Carabatsos, even Lucas: less than a half season.
Whether it was Carabatsos's decision to leave or not (I suspect it was at best a mutual agreement), he went on to write an episode entitled "Court Martial" for The Big Valley in 1967. And then he went on...to do very little.
I don't think he had the time nor perhaps the talent to appreciate what he was dealing with in those 3 months. But that's, of course, speculation and opiinon.
Whether it was Carabatsos's decision to leave or not (I suspect it was at best a mutual agreement), he went on to write an episode entitled "Court Martial" for The Big Valley in 1967. And then he went on...to do very little.
I don't think he had the time nor perhaps the talent to appreciate what he was dealing with in those 3 months. But that's, of course, speculation and opiinon.
Carabatsos was definitely no DC Fontana but the rewrites seemed better than Arthur Singer's. But that could be from season one having better stories to work off of than season three's. I'll still take "Operation--Annihilate!" over "Turnabout Intruder" any day.
Anyone know who wrote the CotEoF scene with McCoy and the hobo in the alley? I think that's my favorite Trek scene.
No idea. I don't think the other drafts of COTEOF have ever been published anywhere. Just Ellison's and maybe the final version.
So you know the Ellison book, JQ? Is the scene there?
Yes. Which is kind of a shame, IMO. I loved the poignancy of Kirk asking Spock, "You know history... What is Verdun?" right after Trooper had sacrificed his life for them.
It took me ages to realize that the bum that McCoy encounters in the alley is the same guy at the mission who tells Kirk and Spock that listening to Edith Keeler is the price you have to pay for the food.
A Taste of Armageddon is one of my top 5.
Oh. Then that was his "comeuppance" for his remark, I guess. That's disappointing, I don't know why.
Well, do you think bums grow on trees? There was a Depression on!
No, I still can't buy it. If the situation were happening in the real world, yes, respectful silence would be a reasonable and decent response. But that fails fantastically as drama. If Kirk were supposed to have remembered his age wrong, then that fact has to be communicated to the audience. And that means someone has to tell the audience Kirk's actual age, or the reactions have to make clear everyone but Kirk knows he got it wrong.
I think you nailed it. 34 was the intention. The events with Kodos on Tarsus IV occurred when Kirk was a child. I'm not at home now, but if I recall, The Star Trek Chronology presents it that way too.
Whatever. I'm just calling it in a way that makes everything else work. Because there is no way whatsoever I buy the idea of a 29-30 year old being given command of a Constitution-class vessel. Thats almost as bad as the ridiculousness of JJtrek.
>Sigh< I guess my thread has officially been hijacked, then.
