What did you think of Space Leia? (last jedi spoilers I guess)

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  1. hxclespaulplayer

    hxclespaulplayer Commander Red Shirt

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    If it was meant as a tribute, it caused the franchise to jump the shark to me. Not to mention ignoring the laws of physics, which I know Star Wars plays fast and loose with at times, but still...
     
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  2. USS Firefly

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    It was a cool scene, If you can stop a laserbolt why not make a force bubble arround yourself?
    It was nice to see Leia show some of her powers
     
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  3. Kirk the Jerk

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  4. feek61

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    It was Mary Poppins in space; totally absurd!

    That being said the only logical thing I could think was that she was still within the shield bubble of the ship but still it was terrible!.
     
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  5. Reverend

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    I don't see the problem. If a force user can lift several tons of waterlogged metal up out of a slimy mud hole in about 1G of gravity, then pulling a single person towards a much more massive object in zero gravity would require very little effort at all. A small tug to get moving is all it'd really take.
     
  6. Commander Richard

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    When she got sucked out into space, I thought that was their way of writing her out.
     
  7. The Wormhole

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    Count me in as among those who don't see a problem with the scene. Maybe when the scene first played out I was a little "WTF is going on here?" but by the end of the movie the stuff we learn about the Force makes the scene make sense.
     
  8. King Daniel Beyond

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    If the force can be used to do all those ridiculous theatrical flips in the prequel trilogy and cartoons, then there's no problem with Leia using it to draw herself back to the ship.

    As for the complete lack of explosive decompression or vacuum-related eyepopping, Guardians of the Galaxy already numbed me to that.
     
  9. WarpFactorZ

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    I'm wondering if Holdo's character was originally supposed to be Leia. I think it would have been a fitting write-out for Leia if she had been the one to hyper-ram the First Order fleet to save the Resistance. Otherwise, she sort of just stood around motionless for the duration of the film.

    Also on a related note: if someone needed to stay behind and pilot the ship, why wasn't a droid chosen to do so?
     
  10. starsuperion

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    The CGI was ridiculous, the scene was also ridiculous, it felt like a DBZ move..
     
  11. M.A.C.O.

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    I was thinking about the complaints about CGI flips in the PT. The Force granting super leaping abilities goes back to TESB, when Luke avoided the freezing trap. The more outrageous things were Leia surviving decompression, the below freezing vacuum of space and being conscious enough to will herself back on to the ship. Despite never displaying any ability to use the Force before now. The tail end of the OT made the Force a super power. The PT pushed things further from the OT (more leaps, more feats, more lightning). The ST has made turned the Force into full on magic. Whatever you want, the Force can do it.
     
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  12. Reverend

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    Yeah, that's not at all what happens. Indeed, both TLJ & GotG got it reasonably close, which is impressive considering scientific accuracy is the least important thing for a space fantasy fairy tale.
     
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  13. King Daniel Beyond

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    Fascinating video, thanks.
     
  14. Reverend

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    Several dogs died to bring us this information...
     
  15. Janeway’s Girl

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    At first I thought it was weird but then I remembered that she is also a Force user. It was cool to see her use it beyond communicating (telepathically) with Luke.
     
  16. Saul

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    Leia using the force. Hell yeah I liked it.
     
  17. Smellmet

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    I haven't got a problem with her abilities in the force enabling her to pull herself back to the ship, it's the execution of the scene I've got beef with, in that she appears to be unconscious and adrift in space for a not inconsiderable time. Force user or not, she should be dead, period. I could have bought the scene if she used the force to stop herself getting dragged out of the ship, for example, whilst still conscious, but the way this scene was done was just utter tosh and was clearly played for 'hey we've killed leia' only to have a dumb 'fooled you' moment.

    I didn't like it and don't think it worked at all. It just came off as dumb, cheap filmmaking.
     
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  18. WarpFactorZ

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    Exactly. Considering most Jedis were killed by a simple blaster during General Order 66, and the Emperor died falling into a power generator, I doubt Leia would have lasted for several minutes in a cold, pressureless vacuum after having been violently blown out into space.
     
  19. Jax

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    You mean like...

    * Hyperdrive
    * The FORCE itself
    * Lightsabres
    * Lasers from guns that are visible to the naked eye and go pew pew.

    and pretty much anything else in this Science Fiction franchise.

    :shrug:
     
  20. Smellmet

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    There has to be SOME semblance of adhering to a vague framework of physics as we know them or it just turns into a cartoon. Which it's getting a little close for comfort to in my view.