were Patrick Stewart and Brent Spiner supposed to be in Trek XI?

[Khan 2.0]

in the comic adaptation of Trek XI in the Spock Prime mind meld with Kirk we see a panel of Data and Picard when Spock is talking about outfitting their fastest ships...

I remember when the adaptation was being done someone behind it stating that they intended to put back in all the deleted stuff...(although there was no Shat scene) so I wonder if the original intention was to have Data and Picard with Spock (instead of the nameless Vulcans) in the 24th century scene of the jellyfish ship (I remember in the cinema i was preparing myself for some Picard when the 24th century scene started)

Stewart has made a couple of very brief cameos in the Wolverine films so why not Trek XI?

I asked bob orci about if stewart had been approached on TrekMovie.com and he replied 'no comment!' (so maybe he had been asked but it couldn't be worked out)
http://trekmovie.com/2009/05/18/orc...kmovie-transcript-of-last-weeks-impromptu-qa/
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imagine how awesome itd have been had Picard (and Data) had showed up in that scene though (plus it would've called back to Unification)...and if theyd got the brilliant Shatner cameo at the end - itd have been like the ultimate Trek film!

 

[DonIago]

I don't feel the new films need any more specific links to the Prime timeline than we've already been presented with in the course of said films.

 

[F. King Daniel]

It would have been really neat to see them in the mind meld scene. Or Stewart, at least, since Spiner's appearance would just lead to all sorts of questions and fanrage.

 

[Khan 2.0]

^
true - itd have only needed to be Stewart

 

[Khan 2.0]

I don't feel the new films need any more specific links to the Prime timeline than we've already been presented with in the course of said films.

I was wanting/half expecting to see Shatner and Stewart in the film and was abit let down when coming out the cinema

 

[DonIago]

Why would Shatner have shown up at all? Kirk died well before the events of the Prime timeline, and it's unclear whether Spock even knows about the later events of GEN.

I guess he could have shown up as a Kirk relative in the new timeline, but that feels like a reach to me.

I never expected to see Stewart in the film, and if he had shown up it might have felt more like fanservice than anything else to me.

 

[Khan 2.0]

they wrote a scene for shatner at the end that wasn't filmed.

 

[The Wormhole]

in the comic adaptation of Trek XI in the Spock Prime mind meld with Kirk we see a panel of Data and Picard when Spock is talking about outfitting their fastest ships...

I remember when the adaptation was being done someone behind it stating that they intended to put back in all the deleted stuff...(although there was no Shat scene) so I wonder if the original intention was to have Data and Picard with Spock (instead of the nameless Vulcans) in the 24th century scene of the jellyfish ship

There were never any plans to include Patrick Stewart or Brent Spiner in Trek XI. IDW just decided to incorporate material from the Countdown prequel comic in their adaptation of Trek XI. Nothing more.

Why would Shatner have shown up at all? Kirk died well before the events of the Prime timeline, and it's unclear whether Spock even knows about the later events of GEN.

In the original scripted version of the scene where Nimoy Spock and Quinto Spock meet each, Nimoy Spock shows a holographic recording of him and Shatner Kirk together to prove to Quinto Spock they were indeed friends.

 

[Cyke101]

Agreed with the others, they never were any plans. When I first watched the film in theaters, I was really hoping that something like the Enterprise-E would make a cameo in the flashback as a firsthand witness to the Hobus star exploding.

But then again, having Spock Prime say something like "My ship, the fastest ever built, was created by one Geordi LaForge, former chief engineer of the USS Enterprise," would have been completely extraneous and pointless to nuKirk.

 

[T'Girl]

Or Stewart, at least, since Spiner's appearance would just lead to all sorts of questions and fanrage.

Why would the inclusion of Spiner create outrage, but Stewart wouldn't?

 

[Jedi_Master]

Or Stewart, at least, since Spiner's appearance would just lead to all sorts of questions and fanrage.

Why would the inclusion of Spiner create outrage, but Stewart wouldn't?

Because Data is dead in the canon time line and it would mean thattAbrams resurrected him in an insufficiently explained manner.

 

[Oso Blanco]

Because Data is dead in the canon time line and it would mean thattAbrams resurrected him in an insufficiently explained manner.

Data's resurrection had already been explained in the Countdown comics ... but I guess that most of the audience wouldn't have had any idea about the comics.

 

[trevanian]

Stewart has made a couple of very brief cameos in the Wolverine films so why not Trek XI?

Ralph Winter told me they only had Stewart for an HOUR on one of those pics, so they had to do enormous work to previz every aspect and have no down time at all when he showed. It's likely that most films wouldn't be able to do that w/o the product suffering in some other way, so the gain vs loss would probably make it easier to just say skip it.

 

[The Wormhole]

Because Data is dead in the canon time line and it would mean thattAbrams resurrected him in an insufficiently explained manner.

Data's resurrection had already been explained in the Countdown comics ... but I guess that most of the audience wouldn't have had any idea about the comics.

Only 2% of fandom bothers with tie-in material. So chances are, had Data been in Trek XI, 98% would wonder what the hell was going on.

 

[Commishsleer]

It would have been really neat to see them in the mind meld scene. Or Stewart, at least, since Spiner's appearance would just lead to all sorts of questions and fanrage.

Just bring on the fanrage.

For once I'd like TPTB to not cower in the corner and explain out every last detail.
You could have Spiner not talk or anything and then it could be B4 or Lore or Data. Leave it up to the viewer's imagination.

Its not like everyone would be devastated by Data's return.

 

[anh165]

You dont want any hint of Berman trek in the reboot otherwise why bother reboot?!

 

[Khan 2.0]

yeah but Picard/Patrick Stewart kind of goes beyond just being part of the berman era

 

[Commishsleer]

You dont want any hint of Berman trek in the reboot otherwise why bother reboot?!

Maybe if you linked the 24th century Prime Universe to the nu Movies people would understand both universes co-exist.


Maybe but they probably would still complain.

 

[T'Girl]

Only 2% of fandom bothers with tie-in material. So chances are, had Data been in Trek XI, 98% would wonder what the hell was going on.

Given that not all of that 98% accept that the universe that Spock and Nero came from was the "prime universe," the actually percentage would be less, and it would be a conformation for those who hold the non-Prime viewpoint.

Maybe if you linked the 24th century Prime Universe to the nu Movies people would understand both universes co-exist.

Parallel, not co-exist (YMMV).

 

[Jedi_Master]

Because Data is dead in the canon time line and it would mean thattAbrams resurrected him in an insufficiently explained manner.

Data's resurrection had already been explained in the Countdown comics ... but I guess that most of the audience wouldn't have had any idea about the comics.

Even that explanation left a lot to be desired - some vague technobabble about matrices and ingrams and B4, etc.