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Web of Fear blu-ray announced (missing ep animated)

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Trailer audio comes from a special web of fear trailer that aired after Enemy of the World in the 60s (as per usual only the audio remains).

Looks like 3D animation with cel shading applied to me. Will be curious to know if that is correct.
 
Looks like 3D animation with cel shading applied to me. Will be curious to know if that is correct.

Oh, undoubtedly. It's not bad compared to their usual work, but the movements are a bit too marionette-ish and overdone. Reminds me of Star Wars Resistance, with its overly stiff-limbed character models.
 
Any word if telesnaps are included ?

I don't like the animations.

Presumably, there was on on the DVD and the DW team don't generally remove content for new releases.

Oh, undoubtedly. It's not bad compared to their usual work, but the movements are a bit too marionette-ish and overdone. Reminds me of Star Wars Resistance, with its overly stiff-limbed character models.

Maybe there's hope for The Highlanders yet then.
 
Maybe there's hope for The Highlanders yet then.

I doubt it. The issue there is the need to create a lot of different character models with distinct costumes, which is a matter of time and budget. That issue is just as great for cel-shaded 3D as for Flash animation, if not greater, due to the need to construct the models in three dimensions. If you look at cel-shaded shows like Resistance, they tend to be pretty limited in terms of clothing variations, even to the absurd degree of something like Torra Doza lounging around in her bedroom in her full flight suit. And a Star Wars show probably had a much higher budget than a Doctor Who reconstruction.
 
I doubt it. The issue there is the need to create a lot of different character models with distinct costumes, which is a matter of time and budget. That issue is just as great for cel-shaded 3D as for Flash animation, if not greater, due to the need to construct the models in three dimensions. If you look at cel-shaded shows like Resistance, they tend to be pretty limited in terms of clothing variations, even to the absurd degree of something like Torra Doza lounging around in her bedroom in her full flight suit. And a Star Wars show probably had a much higher budget than a Doctor Who reconstruction.

Ah, didn't realise that, I've never watched a highlanders recon and have only heard the DW team talk about the Tartan problem for that serial.
I know The Crusade has the costume issue, but I didn't know Highlanders had the same issue.
 
Ah, didn't realise that, I've never watched a highlanders recon and have only heard the DW team talk about the Tartan problem for that serial.

That's what I'm talking about, the difficulty of creating so many complex costume patterns. If it's an issue in 2D, it's an issue in 3D for the exact same reason, the time and money it would take to create all those models.
 
That's what I'm talking about, the difficulty of creating so many complex costume patterns. If it's an issue in 2D, it's an issue in 3D for the exact same reason, the time and money it would take to create all those models.

No, the Tartan issue is a a problem of animating it in motion which isn't an issue in 3D animation with a good physics engine, whereas in 2D it's almost impossible as it has to be done by hand.

The Crusade's problem was tons of characters & costume changes for characters from episode to episode, which is an issue in both 2D and 3D. Now the Highlanders may share that problem - I don't know as I've never watched a recon - but I've only ever seen the DW recon team mention Tartan as an issue for The Highlanders specifically.
 
We all live in hope of proving Christopher wrong. :)

Until then, awesome that we're getting this. I heard this came about as a result of the same animation team also working on The Abominable Snowmen? In any case, I am excited (though I'd rather they didn't use 3D animation for the latter story, but I'm not gonna like any version its come out anyway, somehow).

I must say, its really nice to see Troughton's run slowly but steadily being completed. I can't wait to do a marathon of his live-action stuff in order someday!
 
This is kind of cool, but since I already have the DVD I'm not going to double dip just for an animated reconstruction.
 
We all live in hope of proving Christopher wrong. :)

Until then, awesome that we're getting this. I heard this came about as a result of the same animation team also working on The Abominable Snowmen? In any case, I am excited (though I'd rather they didn't use 3D animation for the latter story, but I'm not gonna like any version its come out anyway, somehow).

I must say, its really nice to see Troughton's run slowly but steadily being completed. I can't wait to do a marathon of his live-action stuff in order someday!

There were rumours that Snowmen & Evil were both in production, so it's possible.

I hardly dare to hope that we're getting three serials next year though lol
 
No, the Tartan issue is a a problem of animating it in motion which isn't an issue in 3D animation with a good physics engine, whereas in 2D it's almost impossible as it has to be done by hand.

That wasn't what I'd been led to understand. I mean, that's what I would've naturally assumed, but I thought I'd read that it had to do with the wide variety of different costume patterns instead. Since it's not what I would've assumed, that seems to suggest I really did read it somewhere. But "I read it somewhere" isn't the most solid evidence, is it? Now I'm just confused.
 
This is the first I've seen footage of one of these animations, and I have admit, it's kind of odd hearing the old, rough audio over the nice crisp animation.
 
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Trailer audio comes from a special web of fear trailer that aired after Enemy of the World in the 60s (as per usual only the audio remains).

Looks like 3D animation with cel shading applied to me. Will be curious to know if that is correct.

The animation, despite being fairly smooth, just doesn't ring quite true. They've had better for the releases.

And a slightly different note: Given the various stories surrounding episode 3's not being returned with the others, the fact they've now gone to animating it... in other words, for whatever reason and a few reasonable possibilities exist, it's not being deemed as being recoverable - if it ever was recoverable; back in 2013 they had that big RT article discussing how much damage was in each episode...

...The following link isn't referring to the same article as it was more extensive and showed a frame's worth of damage, but it says enough for the most likely reason ep 3 wasn't in the bundle:

https://www.radiotimes.com/news/201...-team-on-bringing-lost-episodes-back-to-life/
 
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I thought it was pretty much accepted at this point that some private collector had snatched Episode 3 right out from under Philip Morris as he was in the process of getting those episodes out of Africa, and (evidently, now) has refused to part with it for any price.
 
Oof, that animation is terrible. I think I'll stick to the telesnaps and audio presentation.
 
The animation, despite being fairly smooth, just doesn't ring quite true. They've had better for the releases.

Well, this was just the teaser. Maybe they did it first as a practice run, and they'll apply what they learned and do a better job on the actual episode.

Although I dunno... for me, the problem was with the actual character animation, which overdid the head and body movements. That's more a human issue than a technical issue, so unless they use different animators or advise them to dial it down some, the episode might have the same issue.
 
I thought it was pretty much accepted at this point that some private collector had snatched Episode 3 right out from under Philip Morris as he was in the process of getting those episodes out of Africa, and (evidently, now) has refused to part with it for any price.
What a douche nozzle.

Anyway, I saw this one once on Hulu with the telesnap reconstruction back when Hulu still had original Who. I'll still buy it because I want to put my financial support behind these animated reconstruction projects. Eventually, the only ones left will be Marco Polo and the Highlanders, and I'm sure that at that point they would find a way to make it happen. But only if interest in them is kept up.

Do I recall correctly that the Doctor first meets the Brigadier in the missing episode, and that that momentous meeting occurred off screen?
 
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