We Have All The Time In The World: OHMSS Turning 50

Discussion in 'TV & Media' started by cooleddie74, Nov 24, 2019.

  1. cooleddie74

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    That was a Guy Hamilton beat, though. In all four of his Bond films either the main villain or the henchman survives for one end-of-film confrontation with Bond. Goldfinger. Wint and Kidd. Tee-Hee. Nick Nack. It's just something he did to varying degrees of effect.

    In my opinion Goldfinger and Tee-Hee worked. Wint and Kidd and Nick Nack less so.
     
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    Since this is more of a general Bond thread now it's worth sharing this

    According to Broccoli and Wilson it's going to be two years (at least) before filming even starts on the next film so I guess we're looking at 2025 at the earliest :(

    If only they'd had time on their hands when they could have been thinking about these things. I dunno, if only they'd been locked in their houses for 18 months with nothing to do :p

    I get that they didn't want to even think about the next guy until Daniel had his send off, but it's over nine months since NTTD hit the cinemas, and do they really need two years to reinvent the character etc? Bond isn't that complex a character at the end of the day.

    I get that preproduction, script and casting take time (or maybe not, look how quickly Russell T Davies has turned Doctor Who around since he took charge again) but it really does feel like either they can't be arsed anymore, or maybe it's just too strenuous these days, I mean Wilson is 80 but at 62 it's not like Broccoli is really that old.

    Obviously the days when you could turn a Bond film around in a year are long gone, and maybe even the days where you could drop one every two years are too, but it'd be nice to have a consistent Bond flick dropping every three years. Is that really too much to ask?

    And yes they're not beholden to me or any other fan, but if they're not that fussed anymore they could fully hand the whole thing over to Amazon, and I'm not saying that would necessarily be a good idea, I don't actually want a Bond Extended Universe or anything, but if they're just clinging on out of misplaced honour or duty that's not fair on anyone.

    I mean just look at this.

    60s- 6 films
    70s- 5 films
    80s- 5 films
    90s- 3 films (but remember they didn't start until midway through the decade)
    2000s- 3 films
    2010s - 2 films (in fairness if Boyle had worked out we probably would have got NTTD in 2019 so it would have been 3 again)
    2020s- 1 film (so far)

    Maybe three films a decade is the norm now.

    What do people think, valid criticism or am I just bring a grumpy old man :P

    One last point but I guess the big question is whether they'll decide what kind of Bond they want and cast to fit the role, or whether they'll cast Bond and then mould the character to fit the actor. Hopefully the former and they'll go for something a smidgen more light hearted.
     
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    I'd love to see a return to a new Bond film every two or three years but in this day and age that's not terribly likely(though doable as the Star Wars Sequel Trilogy and standalone movies proved all too well and even if you had issues with the storytelling and plots they showed that you can produce and release an ambitious mega-budget movie in one franchise and every single year if you actually want to). Three a decade would be progress at this point and as long as the films were decent it'd be fine.

    If two or all three are like Spectre then not so much. :lol:
     
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    Nick Nack at least had a reason to try and kill Bond, he'd just blown up his inheritance after all, but Wint and Kidd could have just skipped off into the sunset together, they struck me as hired killers not loyal SPECTRE agents.
     
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    And their worst scene in the movie was their last. Not the best ends for arguably the film's most interesting characters.
     
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    I saw that story yesterday and wondered if I should open a Bond speculation/rumour/anticipation thread
     
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    I probably am being unfair, yes Marvel trot a lot of films out but it isn't like they're all Thor or Captain America films, and for all that people go on about Mission Impossible there were still only three in the 2010s.

    I don't know, you just get a kind of drive and energy about other franchises, even if there'd three or four years between films, that you just don't get from BB and MW anymore. I think that's what irks.

    Dear God, three Spectres in a row could be the death knell of the franchise!

    This is true, imagine if they could have bought them back to face Rog!
     
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    Well this thread seems to have gone way beyond OHMSS, maybe it should be retitled general Bond chat!
     
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    Also remember that OHMSS was considered a box office and popular disappointment at the time. They did everything they could to ignore the events of that film in DAF (much like Star Trek II ignored TMP). DAF is more of a follow up to YOLT. Conner ignored Tracey's death because, as far as he was concerned, it never happened.
     
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    ^ Well he's a more realistic choice than Prince William I guess ;)
     
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    Though Prince William’s granny actually knows the Bond makers (and is even in one of the film titles).
     
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    She's even worked with 007 ;)
     
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    Being slammed around inside a mini-sub used as a wrecking ball could easily be fatal. Who’s going to get him down?
     
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    But why oh why can we not SEE it? If Bond doesn't bother to check, he's got a bizarrely selective memory. It's like not having Vader return for EMPIRE and JEDI.
     
  16. cooleddie74

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    Bond probably wanted off the oil rig before it blew. I guess he figured if Blofeld wasn't dead after this he'd be in no shape to ever again be a threat to him.

    Yeah, it's lazy but in the heat of the moment it probably made sense to him.
     
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    NARRATOR: He would, however, return exactly 10 years later to be a threat to him.
     
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    But also offer him a delicatessen, in stainless steel no less!
     
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    He caused the death of his wife.

    Still, I don't recall DIAMONDS mentioning her death directly as they evidently wanted to keep things light, but come on.....

    Having the actress who killed Tracy die shortly after filming perhaps put extra-drama on the back-burner as well. Bunt is never mentioned either.
     
  20. cooleddie74

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    It's a lazy movie. Very lazy.
     
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