Watching YESTERDAY'S ENTERPRISE....Guinan and the rift...

[gastrof]

Does anyone think that possibly Guinan, when she saw the time rift and said "No!", might have, for a moment, thought it was an entrance to the Nexus?

I know her experience with the Nexus hadn't been depicted yet, and so wasn't actually in mind when the episode was written, but I mean in retrospect.

 

[DWF]

No, I just think she knew trouble when she saw it.

 

[gastrof]

No, I just think she knew trouble when she saw it.

You don't think there was the sound of recognition in her voice as she said "No"?

 

[DWF]

No, I just think she knew trouble when she saw it.

You don't think there was the sound of recognition in her voice as she said "No"?

Well she knew what it was but I don't think she thought it was the Nexus as we saw in Time's Arrow she's well aquainted with time travel and what can do.

 

[RAMA]

Does anyone think that possibly Guinan, when she saw the time rift and said "No!", might have, for a moment, thought it was an entrance to the Nexus?

I know her experience with the Nexus hadn't been depicted yet, and so wasn't actually in mind when the episode was written, but I mean in retrospect.

She just seemed to have a "6th sense" based on sensitivity to time/space anomolies.

RAMA

 

[JNG]

I know her experience with the Nexus hadn't been depicted yet, and so wasn't actually in mind when the episode was written, but I mean in retrospect.

No answer more authoritative than "hey, maybe" but a very interesting idea! While I don't expect she thought it was *the* Nexus, since that particular phenomenon appears to be on a schedule and at least a somewhat predictable course, she probably felt similar strange feelings from the Kerr loop of vibrating superstring material or whatever the heck it was due to the disruptions in time, and felt avoiding them would be best.

 

[Mr. Fergy]

No, I just think she knew trouble when she saw it.

Pretty much. I think Guinan sensed something wasn't right

 

[Brian]

I always took it to be that she "saw" things changing around her, and was like, "No! This can't be happening!" Or by looking in the rift, she saw the two timestreams simultaneously.

I have wondered, however, if her link to the Nexus is what gave her that sense, independent of time.

 

[AdmiralGarak]

I have wondered, however, if her link to the Nexus is what gave her that sense, independent of time.

Interesting, though I doubt it. She's got enough hidden powers to spook a Q. Picard certainly hasn't displayed anything of the sort since being in the Nexus, excluding Anij's time-slowing trick.

Come to think of it-- Long lived. Psychic powers. Senses anomalies in time. Scares the bejesus out of intergalactic trouble-makers.

Guinan is a Time Lord!

 

[Forbin]

Clearly no, since the Nexus hadn't been thought of yet. You can't retcon a script's or actor's intentions based on events that hadn't yet happened in the real world (i.e. a later script).

 

[Michael]

Clearly no, since the Nexus hadn't been thought of yet. You can't retcon a script's or actor's intentions based on events that hadn't yet happened in the real world (i.e. a later script).

Of course we can.

 

[Ryan Thomas Riddle]

Clearly no, since the Nexus hadn't been thought of yet. You can't retcon a script's or actor's intentions based on events that hadn't yet happened in the real world (i.e. a later script).

Of course we can.

Happens all the time in television.

 

[Shatmandu]

In the first draft of the script, Guinan looks into the rift, lets her inner self peer through the rift, and then sees this:

Hence the "No."

Joe, noted Trek historian

 

[Danoz]

In the first draft of the script, Guinan looks into the rift, lets her inner self peer through the rift, and then sees this:

Hence the "No."

Joe, noted Trek historian

Oh my, that would be quite an episode.

Guinan sees through the 4th wall and tries to convince the crew of the Enterprise that they are actually characters of a popular 21st century television show.

 

[Jack Bauer]

I have wondered, however, if her link to the Nexus is what gave her that sense, independent of time.

Interesting, though I doubt it. She's got enough hidden powers to spook a Q. Picard certainly hasn't displayed anything of the sort since being in the Nexus, excluding Anij's time-slowing trick.

As far as we know Picard didn't leave an echo in the Nexus like Guinan did. One theory is Guinan has these mysterious abilities due to having an echo in the Nexus. It allows her to sense things. It's not canon just a theory.

 

[Brian]

^ That's what I meant. A part of her is still (and always was and will be) in the Nexus, completely independent of the time dimension.

We have no way of knowing if that happened to Picard. I think not, since he left it of his own free will, whereas Guinan and her people were torn from it.

 

[chancellorjake]

In the first draft of the script, Guinan looks into the rift, lets her inner self peer through the rift, and then sees this:

Hence the "No."

Joe, noted Trek historian

In that case, I think she would be more likely to scream NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Then, she would run behind the bar and grab that fancy phaser rifle of hers.