Watched Insurrection all the way through

[Photon]

not THAT bad and they did give a little lip service to DS9. The thing w/Worf (still) bothers me. Still don't know why he breaks away from the war to join the Ent in what seems an unimportant mission and when he's aboard there's no sorrow that he just lost his wife nor mention of it.

1 or 2 references to the Dominion even though the threat from them was 1000x worse than the Son'a. Trek movies and conitinuity really have issues at times.

Now I feel better

 

[Deranged Nasat]

not THAT bad and they did give a little lip service to DS9. The thing w/Worf (still) bothers me. Still don't know why he breaks away from the war to join the Ent in what seems an unimportant mission and when he's aboard there's no sorrow that he just lost his wife nor mention of it.

1 or 2 references to the Dominion even though the threat from them was 1000x worse than the Son'a. Trek movies and conitinuity really have issues at times.

Now I feel better

DS9 mentions the Son'a later in the season. Damar wants them to defend a ketracel white facility in place of the Cardassians.

 

[RobertScorpio]

not THAT bad and they did give a little lip service to DS9. The thing w/Worf (still) bothers me. Still don't know why he breaks away from the war to join the Ent in what seems an unimportant mission and when he's aboard there's no sorrow that he just lost his wife nor mention of it.

1 or 2 references to the Dominion even though the threat from them was 1000x worse than the Son'a. Trek movies and conitinuity really have issues at times.

Now I feel better

DS9 mentions the Son'a later in the season. Damar wants them to defend a ketracel white facility in place of the Cardassians.

I know the movies were made independent of the TV shows. But having Picard throwing a party, wearing a wig, and drinking it up really makes you wonder why the Flagship of the Federation, in a time of war, is doing such mundane things...

Is it perhaps they do not consider Picard an asset, considering the fact he has killed more Starfleet officers than he has saved? Maybe..

Rob

 

[timelord1010]

The powers that be could have avoided the complications with Worf by making the date of the movie(s) before the Dominion War.

 

[Deranged Nasat]

not THAT bad and they did give a little lip service to DS9. The thing w/Worf (still) bothers me. Still don't know why he breaks away from the war to join the Ent in what seems an unimportant mission and when he's aboard there's no sorrow that he just lost his wife nor mention of it.

1 or 2 references to the Dominion even though the threat from them was 1000x worse than the Son'a. Trek movies and conitinuity really have issues at times.

Now I feel better

DS9 mentions the Son'a later in the season. Damar wants them to defend a ketracel white facility in place of the Cardassians.

I know the movies were made independent of the TV shows. But having Picard throwing a party, wearing a wig, and drinking it up really makes you wonder why the Flagship of the Federation, in a time of war, is doing such mundane things...

Is it perhaps they do not consider Picard an asset, considering the fact he has killed more Starfleet officers than he has saved? Maybe..

Rob

Hmmmm, you're right that wasting Picard and the flagship on a mission anyone seems qualified to handle is odd...

 

[Hober Mallow]

not THAT bad and they did give a little lip service to DS9. The thing w/Worf (still) bothers me. Still don't know why he breaks away from the war to join the Ent in what seems an unimportant mission and when he's aboard there's no sorrow that he just lost his wife nor mention of it.

Insurrection was released long before Jadzia died.

 

[DWF]

not THAT bad and they did give a little lip service to DS9. The thing w/Worf (still) bothers me. Still don't know why he breaks away from the war to join the Ent in what seems an unimportant mission and when he's aboard there's no sorrow that he just lost his wife nor mention of it.

1 or 2 references to the Dominion even though the threat from them was 1000x worse than the Son'a. Trek movies and conitinuity really have issues at times.

Now I feel better

DS9 mentions the Son'a later in the season. Damar wants them to defend a ketracel white facility in place of the Cardassians.

I know the movies were made independent of the TV shows. But having Picard throwing a party, wearing a wig, and drinking it up really makes you wonder why the Flagship of the Federation, in a time of war, is doing such mundane things...

Is it perhaps they do not consider Picard an asset, considering the fact he has killed more Starfleet officers than he has saved? Maybe..

Rob

Picard didn't wear a wig merely some beeds and I can't quite see a movie tie into a TV show, while it would've cool to see the Enterprise E go up against a Jem Hadar superbattleship, it would've also have confused the general movie going audience.

 

[DS9forever]

Insurrection was released after "Tears of the Prophets". In the original script, Picard asks Worf "How's your bride?", to which Worf replies "A challenge". Picard tells him "Then you were made for each other".

Piller definitely appreciated DS9 much more than Berman, there was also the Quark deleted scene which remains lost to this day. I'm hoping it might turn up on that DVD Rod Roddenberry is making on DS9, TNG etc.

 

[Shazam!]

there was also the Quark deleted scene which remains lost to this day. I'm hoping it might turn up on that DVD Rod Roddenberry is making on DS9, TNG etc.

I thought that was supposed to be in First Contact?

 

[Lindley]

it would've also have confused the general movie going audience.

Not if it were competently done.

 

[DS9forever]

there was also the Quark deleted scene which remains lost to this day. I'm hoping it might turn up on that DVD Rod Roddenberry is making on DS9, TNG etc.

I thought that was supposed to be in First Contact?

No, that was to be in Insurrection:

http://www.st-minutiae.com/academy/literature329/ins.txt

 

[Hober Mallow]

I thought that was supposed to be in First Contact?

Nope, Quark was supposed to appear in a pointlessly tacked on scene at the very end of Insurrection.

PICARD
But I have three hundred and
eighteen days of vacation time
coming. I plan on using them.

ANIJ
I'll be here.

Worf moves over...

WORF
Captain, the Ticonderoga has
moved into orbit.

QUARK'S VOICE
Worf!

They turn to see a Ferengi (QUARK) approaching in a
bathing suit with a beach umbrella and two barely dressed
Dabo girls...

WORF
What are you doing here, Quark?

QUARK
The same thing everyone else in
the quadrant is going to be doing
here... as soon as I build the
greatest spa in the galaxy...
(sotto)
... these people don't have any
religious thing about casinos do
they...?

PICARD
There aren't going to be any spas
on this planet.

QUARK
Do I know you?

PICARD
(ignoring the
question)
This world is about to become a
Federation protectorate, which
will end any and all attempts at
exploitation by people like you.

QUARK
Explain to me how five thousand
time-share units... right there
along the lake... would be
'exploiting' anyone.

PICARD
Mister Worf, have this
uninvited... offlander and his
quests beamed to the Enterprise.
We'll deposit them at Deep Space
Nine.

WORF
Must you, sir?

Worf takes Quark away by the scruff of his beach shirt...
his disappointed babes follow ...trailing away --

QUARK
You'll hear from my Nagus.

They're gone.

ANIJ
Do you really think your mighty
Federation would be interested in
protecting six hundred people?

PICARD
The "mighty" Federation could
learn a few things from this
village...

He kisses her. The signature humming bird appears,
sweeping up in the breeze and hovers briefly in front of
them... and as he takes her hand to his cheek...

Insurrection was released after "Tears of the Prophets".

Oops, you're right. I stand corrected.

 

[LeadHead]

The thing w/Worf (still) bothers me. Still don't know why he breaks away from the war to join the Ent in what seems an unimportant mission and when he's aboard there's no sorrow that he just lost his wife nor mention of it.

The fact that Worf stays aboard doesn't seem that out of place. Data has gone burserk and may potentially have to be hunted down. By the time they reach the Briar Patch, an option being suggested is destroying him.

Data is his friend, if conditions would permit, he'd want to be there to help save his friend.

And...

If Sisko could take 3 months off after Jadzia's death, Worf could take a couple of weeks, still on duty with a starship.

 

[Captrek]

Watched Insurrection all the way through

Ouch. Sorry to hear that. Are you OK?

 

[Shazam!]

Nope, Quark was supposed to appear in a pointlessly tacked on scene at the very end of Insurrection.

Odd. It's mentioned in the First Contact commentary as a scene were they drop Worf off at DS9.

 

[Anwar]

it would've also have confused the general movie going audience.

Not if it were competently done.

Not really, they would've wondered where these bad guys came from and why there were no mention of them in First Contact or otherwise. Having Picard talk about them as if they'd always been around for the last few years would have made the non-DS9 audience feel out of the loop.

Also, the DS9 writers may not have appreciated having to mention the events of INS or have Picard and co do anything major during the war.

 

[nx1701g]

To me I understand entirely why we never saw the Enterprise in the Dominion War (aside from that stupid rule about the hero ship not being able to appear in other productions - why we didn't see any Sovereigns and few few intrepids in DS9).

The Enterprise was the Federation Flagship so it'd make sense to keep it closer to the core worlds and solving the little brushfire problems that were popping up among Federation member worlds. Plus it'd be a PR nightmare should the Enterprise - the most famous ship in Starfleet - be destroyed on the frontlines. It'd hurt morale in the fleet and with the worlds of the Federation. It made a lot of sense to me.

 

[dHunter333]

insurrection was terrible
even forgetting the fact that it should've been about the dominion war
it was terrible and cheesey and stupid and corney

if it was about the dominion war, handled nicely, lot of action, it would've done a lot better
its a sad truth, thats why first contact did so well

 

[od0_ital]

not THAT bad and they did give a little lip service to DS9. The thing w/Worf (still) bothers me. Still don't know why he breaks away from the war to join the Ent in what seems an unimportant mission and when he's aboard there's no sorrow that he just lost his wife nor mention of it.

1 or 2 references to the Dominion even though the threat from them was 1000x worse than the Son'a. Trek movies and conitinuity really have issues at times.

Now I feel better

In the novelization, Worf tells Picard, when they reunite before the reception, that he was in the area, settin' up a defense perimeter, heard the E-E was doin' a thing, and so on & so forth...

In the movie, you can just barely hear Worf start to go into this explanation when Riker & Geordi start goin' back & forth over the commbadges.

When Picard makes the decision to go after Data, he does say that Worf may be able to delay his return to the station.

 

[RyuRoots]

it would've also have confused the general movie going audience.

Not if it were competently done.

Not really, they would've wondered where these bad guys came from and why there were no mention of them in First Contact or otherwise. Having Picard talk about them as if they'd always been around for the last few years would have made the non-DS9 audience feel out of the loop.

Also, the DS9 writers may not have appreciated having to mention the events of INS or have Picard and co do anything major during the war.

I think it'd easily be possible to explain who the Dominion are as well as the Borg were explained in FC. Sure, you wouldn't appreciate them as much if you hadn't seen the Dominion War eps, but same goes for FC and the Borg eps (BoBW most notably)