Was Star trek Into Darkness Disaterous

[Dales]

froM a yahoo link page, a critic called the film disastrous.

http://www.idigitaltimes.com/star-t...-sequel-must-learn-avengers-age-ultron-439018

here is an abstract from the article:

After the disastrous Star Trek: Into Darkness, Paramount dumped writer Roberto Orci (9/11 Truther) from Star Trek 3 and started fresh. What’s been revealed so far sounds promising, with Justin Lin (Fast Five) directing from a script by beloved Star Trek cast member Simon Pegg. But with Paramount determined to hit a July 2016 release date Star Trek 3 is scrambling to get its act together. Fortuitously, the new release Avengers: Age of Ultron has a number of thematic overlaps with Star Trek, including an important lesson that Star Trek 3 would do well to take to heart.

i did not love film but having articles on mainstream media calling the Film disastrous is a bit far fetched. does anyone else feel the same way

 

[Tosk]

Not really. It's not like it will hurt the film's feelings.

 

[Dukhat]

Hey, look at me! I'm some dumbass internet critic who needs attention by making up some bullshit about a movie I hate so I can ruffle some other internet bulletin board members' feathers!

 

[Nerys Myk]

Is iDigitalTimes the "mainstream media"? And who the hell is Andrew Whalen?

 

[Smellmet]

It's barely even an article. Load of cobblers.

 

[BillJ]

froM a yahoo link page, a critic called the film disastrous.

http://www.idigitaltimes.com/star-t...-sequel-must-learn-avengers-age-ultron-439018

here is an abstract from the article:

After the disastrous Star Trek: Into Darkness, Paramount dumped writer Roberto Orci (9/11 Truther) from Star Trek 3 and started fresh. What’s been revealed so far sounds promising, with Justin Lin (Fast Five) directing from a script by beloved Star Trek cast member Simon Pegg. But with Paramount determined to hit a July 2016 release date Star Trek 3 is scrambling to get its act together. Fortuitously, the new release Avengers: Age of Ultron has a number of thematic overlaps with Star Trek, including an important lesson that Star Trek 3 would do well to take to heart.

i did not love film but having articles on mainstream media calling the Film disastrous is a bit far fetched. does anyone else feel the same way

Someone doesn't really understand success and failure. True Orci has been removed, but that was well after he was hired to write and direct Star Trek 3. You don't hire someone to write and direct the next film in a franchise if the last one was a "disaster".

Next.

 

[Mudd]

i did not love film but having articles on mainstream media calling the Film disastrous is a bit far fetched.

What the fuck makes a no-name clickbait website "mainstream media?"

 

[ALF]

Maybe the inference was that disasters occur in the story of the film. Disasters of volcanos, Klingon attacks, terrorist attacks, death through radiation, The USS Enterprise almost crashing, etc.

Disasters aplenty.

 

[martok2112]

Maybe the inference was that disasters occur in the story of the film. Disasters of volcanos, Klingon attacks, terrorist attacks, death through radiation, The USS Enterprise almost crashing, etc.

Disasters aplenty.

Don't forget the Vengeance actually crashing.

 

[Lowkey]

Well that is a bit overboard. I'd certainly say from my perspective it was a terrible movie, and I actually liked the first one alright. Of course you can always shore up any plot holes with "because... fuck you timeline!". Still as a trek fan I felt like the movie was trolling me sometimes. I'm all for getting a wider audience, but you need to do it with a little respect beyond just calling the everything the same names.

The Klingons were wearing masks people!! Masks!? On Klingons!? How is anyone going to see the scars of battle the proof of your honor if you walk around wearing masks!?

I know I know nerd rage, but that's not even going into the Lazarus tribble. Anyway.. yes terrible movie. to me disastrous means it broke the studio or something.

 

[Dukhat]

The Klingons were wearing masks people!! Masks!? On Klingons!? How is anyone going to see the scars of battle the proof of your honor if you walk around wearing masks!?

If I had to walk around in a province whose atmosphere was decimated by ecological disaster due to an exploded moon, I'd probably be wearing a mask too.

The next thing you'll be saying is that Klingons don't wear space suits when performing EVA maneuvers because they're just that tough.

 

[Borgminister]

Disaterous, perhaps. Disastrous? No.

 

[Lowkey]

The Klingons were wearing masks people!! Masks!? On Klingons!? How is anyone going to see the scars of battle the proof of your honor if you walk around wearing masks!?

If I had to walk around in a province whose atmosphere was decimated by ecological disaster due to an exploded moon, I'd probably be wearing a mask too.

The next thing you'll be saying is that Klingons don't wear space suits when performing EVA maneuvers because they're just that tough.

Didn't seem to bother the humans, or the Klingons when one of them took the mask off in the next scene. They were Haloized.

 

[BillJ]

They were Haloized.

What exactly is the issue? I'd rather have the "Halo" Klingons that actually look alien than the "hair metal band rejects" that were the 24th century Klingons.

 

[Mudd]

The Klingons were wearing masks people!! Masks!? On Klingons!? How is anyone going to see the scars of battle the proof of your honor if you walk around wearing masks!?

No one cares, least of all the Klingons.

Fuck - in TOS (which is the Star Trek that the new movies are mainly based on) most of the Klingons would have laughed off the notion of "honor" altogether.

 

[Kor]

The Klingons were wearing masks people!! Masks!? On Klingons!? How is anyone going to see the scars of battle the proof of your honor if you walk around wearing masks!?

Whatever you may think of the Klingon masks, you cannot pin that on ST:ID. The masks were developed for ST09. Watch the ST09 deleted Klingon scenes again and you will see.

And I think it makes total sense. Plenty of real-life warrior cultures with honor codes have used facial protection of some kind... Knights, Samurai, etc.

It's nice to see Klingons that actually seem menacing. Klingons in the TOS era are a ruthless, efficient military machine, not a bunch of cavemen bikers constantly spouting about "honor this" and "honor that."

And "disastrous" is definitely an exaggeration. ST:ID had the top spot at the US box office on opening weekend, and internationally, it made more than ST09.

Kor

 

[Richard Baker]

The Klingons were wearing masks people!! Masks!? On Klingons!? How is anyone going to see the scars of battle the proof of your honor if you walk around wearing masks!?

If I had to walk around in a province whose atmosphere was decimated by ecological disaster due to an exploded moon, I'd probably be wearing a mask too.

The next thing you'll be saying is that Klingons don't wear space suits when performing EVA maneuvers because they're just that tough.

I've heard they fart in airlocks too...

 

[fireproof78]

They were Haloized.

What exactly is the issue? I'd rather have the "Halo" Klingons that actually look alien than the "hair metal band rejects" that were the 24th century Klingons.

Personally, I thought they looked far more like an organized military that post-TOS Klingons. The TOS ones definitely had the rank and file look that I would expect from soldiers of the Empire, but I never got that feeling from the TNG style.

Also, I'm not sure how ID is Star Trek in name only.I thought the idea of social commentary on drone strikes would be something that would be done if TOS were still around.

I didn't read the article because I personally am tired of "click bait" articles that centered on all the negative opinions on ID. Apparently there was nothing positive that came out of ID

 

[martok2112]

I like the new Klingons. They have an added menace to them, and with the helms they look like an alien "brute squad". And when the helms come off, they look even more menacing and alien.

 

[Jedi_Master]

It is difficult to get more cartoonishly evil than the TOS Klingons.