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Was Star Trek II ever intended to be a TV movie? — FACT TREK

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This comes up now and then... re Star Trek II and whether or not it actually began as a TV movie project. We did a blog post about it today (link). I'll summarize the main points here but pop over to the blog if you want the full story plus our usual citations.

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T V, Or Not T V, Is That the Question?

OTD 25 years ago (February 25, 1985) The ABC Sunday Night Movie featured the US commercial network television premiere of The Wrath of Khan, and probably the largest single audience the film ever had.

But have you heard the rumor that this triumphant sequel was originally conceived as a humble TV movie of the week? Some say it was so, others say no go. So where's the truth?

Starlog Magazine’s May 1981 issue gave many fans the notion that the film was planned to be a TV movie from. It reported:

[...]Paramount has admitted that if the TV-movie is good enough, it could be released theatrically instead of being broadcast on the tube (as was done with Universal's Buck Rogers pilot).

A few weeks later, in mid-May of 1981, Roddenberry was telling the press that the film’s release strategy would depend on how well the film turned out:

A new “Star Trek” TV series is unlikely, said Roddenberry. “The route now is to two-hour movies. Paramount has one in the works. But whether for TV or theaters depends on how it comes out.”

A few months later, other press outlets began running with the story that Paramount hadn’t settled on a release strategy for the film. In an article that ran in Weekly Variety on September 9, 1981, for example, the trade paper indicated that plans for the movie were still in a state of flux only two months before filming would begin:

Paramount will release the project theatrically abroad, but has decided to take a “wait and see posture” domestically. At one point, it had been planned as a two-hour telefilm and later anticipated as a feature. Word is creative personnel are receiving salaries “commensurate with a feature film.”

But the September 18, 1981 press release announcing the start of production had studio head Michael Eisner denying that a movie-of-the-week had ever been considered:

“Contrary to all the unconfirmed reports and the inevitable speculation about this project, ‘STAR TREK II’ has always been intended as a full-length motion picture for release in the United States and Canada as well as in the international territories,” Mr. Eisner commented.

But Eisner’s blunt public assertion was contradicted internally in a memo from Paramount Executive Bob Rosenbaum to Gary Nardino dated September 29, 1981 [emphasis ours]:

On June 9, 1981 Television Production put out a budget based on a script written by Jack B. Sowards and Harve Bennett dated April 10, 1981. This budget was considered as a two-hour movie of the week to be made in thirty-five (35) days and to be shot and staffed in a television manner. It was budgeted at $4,914,786 excluding optical work. According to business affairs, if this script was to be released as a theatrical motion picture, there would be an additional cost of $667,018 to be added (as noted on the top sheet.)

Bingo. It was originally planned as a TV movie. Case closed.


The full article here for those who wants the deets.
 
There was a Starlog in, i think summer 81, where the headline in Communications was something like “Star Trek back to tv trek”. It mentioned the introduction of younger cast members too. May have been the first place I ever heard of Saavik. Was all about how Trek was going back to tv in fall 82.
 
There was a Starlog in, i think summer 81, where the headline in Communications was something like “Star Trek back to tv trek”. It mentioned the introduction of younger cast members too. May have been the first place I ever heard of Saavik. Was all about how Trek was going back to tv in fall 82.
“STAR TREK BACK ON THE TV TRACK”. May 1981. It’s in the blog post.
 
On topic question: I know that originally they were going to use the Enterprise model as the Reliant for budget reasons before the switch to a new model. I'm assuming that they realized that the audience would get confused with two ships that looked identical, but I once heard a rumor that they were initially going to differentiate the two ships by painting the model yellow for the Reliant scenes. Any truth to that, do you know?
 
I've seen nothing to support such a drastic repainting, but it's possible it was discussed.

I forget where I read it, but I recall encountering an assertion that one idea for the Reliant would have been to have Brick Price pull out the molds of the 1977 TV model they had been building and use that shell for a Reliant model. This is not as crazy as it sounds, as the post self-destruct Enterprise in Star Trek III is apparently made from one of these.
 
I've seen nothing to support such a drastic repainting, but it's possible it was discussed.

I forget where I read it, but I recall encountering an assertion that one idea for the Reliant would have been to have Brick Price pull out the molds of the 1977 TV model they had been building and use that shell for a Reliant model. This is not as crazy as it sounds, as the post self-destruct Enterprise in Star Trek III is apparently made from one of these.
Explains why the ship suddenly looks a lot less textured in that sequence. One of the Blu-Ray supplementals showed that shot next to one from an earlier film, and the difference in lighting composition is absolutely striking.
 
I recorded that broadcast on VHS! As I recall, there was extra footage not shown in the theatres (e.g. Peter Preston's exchange with Kirk when they first meet in engineering).
 
I recorded that broadcast on VHS! As I recall, there was extra footage not shown in the theatres (e.g. Peter Preston's exchange with Kirk when they first meet in engineering).
Most of which has been incorporated into the director's edition/director's cut versions of the film. But yeah, ABC showed it first.
 
I recorded that broadcast on VHS! As I recall, there was extra footage not shown in the theatres (e.g. Peter Preston's exchange with Kirk when they first meet in engineering).
Yeah, Meyer said in one of his interviews that he was allowed much more leeway with the TV cut, because nobody cared very much. So he put back in a few scenes that he missed, like the Peter Preston scene that established him as Scotty's nephew.
 
There was a Starlog in, i think summer 81, where the headline in Communications was something like “Star Trek back to tv trek”. It mentioned the introduction of younger cast members too. May have been the first place I ever heard of Saavik. Was all about how Trek was going back to tv in fall 82.

The first pics I ever saw of ST II were cast pics (including Saavik!) in an issue of Japanese "Super-Visual", which a Japanese-speaking fan friend had brought with her to a Trek convention in Australia in February 1982. The mag managed to scoop "Starlog". Yes, we already knew her name via "Starlog".
 
I once heard a rumor that they were initially going to differentiate the two ships by painting the model yellow for the Reliant scenes. Any truth to that, do you know?

Famously, the Reliant's nacelles ended up under the saucer when the original plans were signed off, accidentaly, upside down. It was decided the ship looked better that way and the roll bar was moved to the new top.
 
Famously, the Reliant's nacelles ended up under the saucer when the original plans were signed off, accidentaly, upside down. It was decided the ship looked better that way and the roll bar was moved to the new top.

Well, yes, I already knew that. I was asking about the original idea of having the Reliant be a reuse of the TMP Enterprise before they came up with a new design.
 
THE SINISTER KHAN.
ADMIRAL JAMES T. KIRK.


TWO MORTAL ENEMIES
WITH ONE COMMON
GOAL... TO DESTROY
EACH OTHER!


STAR
TREK
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the WRATH of KHAN

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Got to love how much ABC distorted the basic premise and made it feel like it's this whole other movie. It's like Marvel Comics meets the WWF. I have to believe that was part of the overall marketing plan to distance TWOK as much from TMP as possible.
 
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Also, wanting to destroy each other is not a common goal, it's two mutually opposed goals. The only way it would be a common goal is if it were a suicide pact.
 
I've seen nothing to support such a drastic repainting, but it's possible it was discussed.

I forget where I read it, but I recall encountering an assertion that one idea for the Reliant would have been to have Brick Price pull out the molds of the 1977 TV model they had been building and use that shell for a Reliant model. This is not as crazy as it sounds, as the post self-destruct Enterprise in Star Trek III is apparently made from one of these.

Is this this Phase II Enterprise or something else? What was actually built in 1977?
 
Is this this Phase II Enterprise or something else? What was actually built in 1977?
We don’t use “Phase II” because that’s not what the show was going to be called, except for a hot second early on. All the scripts and documents just say Star Trek II, so we call it Star Trek II [TV] to differentiate it (and after the fanfilm series used Phase II it muddied which show we were talking about). But, yes, the show announced in 1977. The model was under construction and then stopped when they went to a theatrical motion picture and Robert Abel and Associates came in. The unfinished model molds survived and were modified to more closely match the ship from the movie. Hence it was used to make the blowed up ship, and to make replicas for Planet Hollywood restaurants.

Back in 2011 the SyFy show Hollywood Treasure episode "Trek to the Future" featured a segment on Brick Price and the TV model, notably the molds. You can still find it on Amazon Prime if you want to pay to watch it. The segment in question starts about 9 minutes in.

Here are some screen grabs and my notes from a post I made about this in 2011:

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^^^As you can see in the above pix, the model appears to have been modified after the TV show was cancelled as the molds and castings of the forward engineering hull and "neck" feature a torpedo deck as was designed for the Star Trek: The Motion Picture model. This area is not consistent with photos of the model under construction in 1978. The odd diagonal on the mold of the hull implies that they recast this area to feature that detail.

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^^^Outboard side of a nacelle (port). Note the "intercooler" at the back and the faintly seen half-cylinder detail just forward of the cowling for the main grille, and just below the backwards 7-shaped ribbed panel.

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^^^This shot (1 of 2) establishes that the casting held here is the inboard side of a nacelle (note the lack of the "intercooler").

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^^^This shot (2 of 2) establishes that the inboard side of a nacelle lacks that half cylinder detail seen on the outboard side (which appears just under the ribbed panel there.)
 
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He was crazy to think he could get that for a WIP model. Many completed miniatures don’t go for that kind of money.
 
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