Was AU Tasha Yar Stupid for trying to take Sela?

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  1. WesleysDisciple

    WesleysDisciple Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    She had to know Shed be terrified at being essentially kidnapped.

    Think it was just a unwillingness to leave a child of her own body behind?
     
  2. Bry_Sinclair

    Bry_Sinclair Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Whilst we don't know the extent of the differences between the two different timelines, so if we assume that much of the same happened on Turkana IV as in our reality then we already know that Tasha is a kind and caring person, who lost her own parents as a child and became the guardian for her younger sister, keeping her safe from the violence that was prevalent in the remains of their colony. When she managed to escape she tried to take Ishara with her, but her sister refused and that stayed behind, which would definitely have been a very emotional issue for her to deal with ever since. If this was how things played out, there is no way she would leave her own daughter behind, having both lost her own mother as a child and having guilt over not saving her sister years earlier.

    However, if that wasn't the case for her backstory she was still Sela's mother and any good parent wouldn't leave their child behind with a man who was essentially her jailer and a rapist.
     
  3. Mojochi

    Mojochi Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    She wasn't stupid for wanting to get her child out of that situation. She was probably a bit stupid about how she managed it, given the end result for her. Might have been better to plan a way to sedate the little brat lol
     
  4. Finn

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    Also, we don’t really know what happened. Sela’s father may have conditioned her into believing the story she told Picard.
     
  5. Orphalesion

    Orphalesion Commodore Commodore

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    Just makes me think how much they wasted Sela's character. She could have been a morally conflicted character who's always torn between aiding Picard or loyalty to the Empire.
    Instead they made her just a blond Romulan.
     
  6. Bry_Sinclair

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    If things had been different she could’ve been an amazing recurring character, maybe even defecting to Starfleet at some point and living on the E-D.
     
  7. USS Excelsior

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    Or instead of Sela have the AU Tasha appear in TNG instead.
     
  8. JirinPanthosa

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    No mother would abandon her child to a father who coerced her into sexual slavery under threat of death.
     
  9. WesleysDisciple

    WesleysDisciple Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    Sela in my opinion seemed like she had a few doubts deep down when she said "He gave her a life a home a daughter and how did she repay him? With betrayal" I Could see ways that could have been developed.
     
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  10. TimeIsAPredator

    TimeIsAPredator Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Came here to say exactly this
     
  11. Qonundrum

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    ^^this, x10000

    Sela had one of the best character introductions in sci-fi - ever. And that was in the tail end of season 4. Then came season 5 and being a generic thug in "Redemption II" that borderlines a generic looney tunes character... then she became one outright in "Unification". Completely underused character with far more potential than what was put on paper.

    That said, I still chucked with Sela's line:

     
  12. USS Excelsior

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    She must have gotten special treatment to start off with commanding her own ship, but I suppose it’s not the first time someone goes from Cadet straight to Captain.
     
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  13. Charles Phipps

    Charles Phipps Commodore Commodore

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    Tasha's big mistake was not stunning her daughter. In the future, that's what the stun setting is for.

    :)
     
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  14. WesleysDisciple

    WesleysDisciple Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    Fair enough

    I Feel bad for Tasha but I dont blame Sela for feeling terrified and screaming.
     
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  15. JesterFace

    JesterFace Commodore Commodore

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    Might Sela appear in 'Picard'?
     
  16. Charles Phipps

    Charles Phipps Commodore Commodore

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    It would be a waste if she didn't given all the Romulan focus and Dennis doing some work for ST:O.
     
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  17. Nyotarules

    Nyotarules Vice Admiral Moderator

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    The Federation Tasha Yar came from might be different from the semi utopia UFP that Sela encountered. Maybe young Sela made the decision that the Empire was much better than the loser place her mother came from.
     
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  18. Orphalesion

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    Of course there's in-universe ways to justify why she was the person we saw on the show, but she just didn't make for a very interesting character (imho)
     
  19. Oddish

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    She did what a mother would do. It's that simple. Maternal instinct is a force of nature to be reckoned with. That woman who would rather be raped and beaten than defend herself with a gun... put her kid in danger, and she'll pick up the Glock and start blasting.
     
  20. JesterFace

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    We don't know the details, where they lived or what kind of quality of life they had so it's near impossible to guess if she was dumb trying to get away.