Warrior class or warrior caste?

[Deimos Anomaly]

In Judgement Kolos talks about the "warrior class" who now dominate the Klingon state, but in Affliction Antaak speaks of the "warrior caste" instead.

Do the ST writers know that a class and a caste are not the same thing?

What's the story here?

 

[Timo]

The two might be speaking of the same thing, but with different overtones. Say, a Klingon might find the idea of a "caste" of warriors demeaning, as it implies one is born into it rather than achieving status through one's own actions - so Antaak the Scientist might be deriding the warriors for their complacency, and insinuating that they are not properly earning their position in the society. There's clearly no love lost between himself and General K'Vagh.

On the other hand, there might exist a warrior class that consists of those born into it (the caste) and those entering it through achievements or twists of fate (the rest, with the sum total being the class). Again, Antaak might be indicating that General K'Vagh is from the hereditary "core" of the warrior class, although perhaps not in an insulting sense. Really, his delivery there might suggest he feels pity for the General...

The third option is that "caste" is wrong in every sense, and Antaak simply slightly mispronounced "class", or the quirky early Universal Translator made a mess of it.

Certainly it does not appear as if all Klingon warriors would be part of a caste, either in ENT or in other eras.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[SchwEnt]

Or perhaps the Klingon warrior "thing" has no human equivalent and some interpret it erroneously as "class" or "caste" and neither are quite accurate.

 

[R. Star]

I would say it's the difference between noble and common Klingons that Kor so eloquently spoke of. Sure it's contradictory, but so much about the Klingons is, what's one more thing?

 

[The Wormhole]

In Judgement Kolos talks about the "warrior class" who now dominate the Klingon state, but in Affliction Antaak speaks of the "warrior caste" instead.

Do the ST writers know that a class and a caste are not the same thing?

What's the story here?

Likely answer is no they don't. The two episodes you speak of were written two years apart, obviously someone mixed things up. It happens, and there are worse examples than this in Star Trek.

 

[Enterprise is Great]

In Judgement Kolos talks about the "warrior class" who now dominate the Klingon state, but in Affliction Antaak speaks of the "warrior caste" instead.

Do the ST writers know that a class and a caste are not the same thing?

What's the story here?

The writer of Afflication probably forgot that Judgement used the word class and not the word caste and then they didn't check it.

 

[Drago-Kazov]

I would say it's the difference between noble and common Klingons that Kor so eloquently spoke of. Sure it's contradictory, but so much about the Klingons is, what's one more thing?

Klingons should abolish the aristocracy.Good warriors like Martok get locked out because of it.

Is there any book that has a klingon who wants to abolish the aristocracy?