Voyager dominion war assistance

[Voth commando1]

So we know contact was made with the federation in message in a bottle and intermittent contact achieved after that and more stable contact achieved by voyager's seventh year in the DQ.

If Voyager in its third or fourth year in the DW had somehow achieved more stable contact with the federation is there anyway they could have assisted in the dominion war-from a distance?

Maybe sending schematics, technology ideas, DQ alien tactics, etc...

Intellectual and technical information gained from their travels in the DQ-would any such information have been useful in the dominion war if it could be transmitted?

Thoughts?

 

[Lynx]

I don't think that the Voyager crew could have done that much were they were, unless they all of a sudden had decided to take a shortcut through the Gamma Quadrant and attack the Dominion in the back. But with only one ship.............

More possible, Janeway could have gathered her senior staff, stating that "There's a war going on and we are losing big to the Dominion and the Cardassians. Maybe we should set a course back to that planet where we met Amelia Earhart?"

What I find remarcable is that the war witb the Dominion was never, ever discussed or debated on Voyager. I mean, if i had been there and found out that those back home were involved in a struggle about life and death with a ruthless enemy, I would have been worried and not only me so they should have been some discussions about it.

Which is also a reason why I think that this episode was a bad one since it ruined the whole premise for the show which was supposed to be about a Federation ship lost in space. Voyager shouldn't have had any contact wit Federation headquarters until at the end of season 7.

 

[Voth commando1]

I actually loved message in a bottle and in all fairness regular contact with earth wasn't achieved until season 7 IIRC prior to that it had been intermittent and shaky at best.

As for the dominion war itself-I do wish voyager had given more than a few passing references to it-however it did affect things message in a bottle was cloak and dagger intrigues in the shadow of the dominion war, B'lanna was grievously affected by the slaughter of the maquis and I imagine it did impact how much effort Starfleet put into getting voyager home or at least in steady contact.

I also like to think that off screen Starfleet command did inform Janeway of the war, and either the information sent was limited or Janeway decided to not tell the crew about it for morale reasons.

My question was more is there any information or advice voyager could have given not direct support.

I also like to think of how voyager and its crew would have reacted if the dominion won the war and there was no earth to come home to.

 

[Sophie74656]

I don't think that the Voyager crew could have done that much were they were, unless they all of a sudden had decided to take a shortcut through the Gamma Quadrant and attack the Dominion in the back. But with only one ship.............

More possible, Janeway could have gathered her senior staff, stating that "There's a war going on and we are losing big to the Dominion and the Cardassians. Maybe we should set a course back to that planet where we met Amelia Earhart?"

What I find remarcable is that the war witb the Dominion was never, ever discussed or debated on Voyager. I mean, if i had been there and found out that those back home were involved in a struggle about life and death with a ruthless enemy, I would have been worried and not only me so they should have been some discussions about it.

Which is also a reason why I think that this episode was a bad one since it ruined the whole premise for the show which was supposed to be about a Federation ship lost in space. Voyager shouldn't have had any contact wit Federation headquarters until at the end of season 7.

They had contact with the Alpha Quadrant once a month in the last season

 

[Lynx]

They had contact with the Alpha Quadrant once a month in the last season

Yes, and there should have been enough if they had got in contact with Earth in the 2-3 last episodes of the series. "Message In A Bottle" did ruin the premise for the series.

Not to mention that the writers and producers should have focused more on the crew's homecoming and had at least two episodes at the end dealing with that. It would have been interestin to see them come home and find out what had happened during their absence. There could have been some DS9 and TNG characters involved, Mark, Kim's parents, Libby, Admiral Paris, the real Dr. Zimmerman.....
It would have been more interesting than the sorry mess called "Endgame".

 

[Tracy Trek]

I actually loved message in a bottle and in all fairness regular contact with earth wasn't achieved until season 7 IIRC prior to that it had been intermittent and shaky at best.

They lost contact with Starfleet right after Message in a Bottle when the Hirogen destroyed the communications relay station in Hunters. They didn't hear anything else until Pathfinder in season 6. After that it was a data stream once a month. Finally daily real time visual communication for 11 minutes a day in Author, Author.

 

[Sophie74656]

Yes, and there should have been enough if they had got in contact with Earth in the 2-3 last episodes of the series. "Message In A Bottle" did ruin the premise for the series.

Not to mention that the writers and producers should have focused more on the crew's homecoming and had at least two episodes at the end dealing with that. It would have been interestin to see them come home and find out what had happened during their absence. There could have been some DS9 and TNG characters involved, Mark, Kim's parents, Libby, Admiral Paris, the real Dr. Zimmerman.....
It would have been more interesting than the sorry mess called "Endgame".

One moment of contact hardly ruins the premise of the show

 

[Lynx]

One moment of contact hardly ruins the premise of the show

Honestly, I think it does in this case.
First of all, it's a bit over the top that they could contact Earth all the way from the other side of the Galaxy. Second, the series was supposed to be about a ship and crew lost in the Delta Quadrant without any contact with Earth and no one on Earth knowing if they were alive or not.

 

[Sophie74656]

Honestly, I think it does in this case.
First of all, it's a bit over the top that they could contact Earth all the way from the other side of the Galaxy. Second, the series was supposed to be about a ship and crew lost in the Delta Quadrant without any contact with Earth and no one on Earth knowing if they were alive or not.

They had a moment of contact and then sporadic unreliable contact in the last season. The premise of the show is a ship stuck in the Delta Quadrant. They were still stuck in the Delta Quadrant

 

[JirinPanthosa]

What I find remarcable is that the war witb the Dominion was never, ever discussed or debated on Voyager. I mean, if i had been there and found out that those back home were involved in a struggle about life and death with a ruthless enemy, I would have been worried and not only me so they should have been some discussions about it.

When they established contact, they did have one or two short conversations. Federation people saying "I can't believe we're at war!" and Chakotay and B'elana discussing the destruction of the Maquis. Very, very little but more than nothing.

I agree they should have discussed it more from a realism and immersion point of view, but from a production point of view, they had to let both shows be their own thing and not step on each others' toes.

Voyager probably sent all the information on technology they had to the AQ. They frankly didn't have that much that was immediately actionable. Nothing that could be developed into something useful in two years.

 

[The Wormhole]

Thoughts?

Apparently the captain of the Bellerophon liked the idea of turning his/her personal dining room into a kitchen for the mess hall, but no, I'm not really sure what Voyager learned in the Delta Quadrant that could have been a benefit for the Dominion War. Maybe further research into warp 10, or at least determining if turning into a salamander could have any tactical benefit.

 

[JirinPanthosa]

By that time they had an almost-working slipstream drive, and they had mobile emitter technology.

 

[Lynx]

When they established contact, they did have one or two short conversations. Federation people saying "I can't believe we're at war!" and Chakotay and B'elana discussing the destruction of the Maquis. Very, very little but more than nothing.

I agree they should have discussed it more from a realism and immersion point of view, but from a production point of view, they had to let both shows be their own thing and not step on each others' toes.

Voyager probably sent all the information on technology they had to the AQ. They frankly didn't have that much that was immediately actionable. Nothing that could be developed into something useful in two years.

Which are some of the reasons why I think that this episode shouldn't have been made at all.

 

[JirinPanthosa]

I didn't have a problem with them getting in contact with home. It was a strong episode and created dramatic possibilities. It was late enough in the series I have no problem with making changes to the premise anyway.

Also they had temporal shielding.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Starfleet should have ordered Voyager to veer left, and sideswipe the Dominion, or give them a bum rush.