Vouchers

[VulcanJedi]

Charter schools could be like moving around the deck furniture on the Titanic.

I'm all for school reform and school choice: because something has to change. I'd rather mix things up and take a chance. How could it get any worse? Don't answer that. But, just handing out vouchers in and of themselves won't change a thing. Why would a charter school be any better than a public school? If they just take the same people from public school, mix the curriculum up in a bingo spinner and pull something out-it won't make any difference in a student's life. Painting the walls a different color won't give a kid a brighter future either. Anyone who has worked with kids or worked in the schools can tell you the problem is discipline, apathetic parents and just plain bad parents.

Public Education is failing because the philosophies within each community driving public education are failing. Until parents begin raising their children themselves instead of passing the responsibility to the government, television and now the Internet, it won't matter how they organize the classroom or design a lesson plan or what entertaining new math curriculum they pull from the hat.

 

[Mr Awe]

Charter schools could be like moving around the deck furniture on the Titanic.

Obviously you had this expression about deck chairs in mind and wanted to find a subject to cram it into. But, you're wrong. Factually you're wrong on one level because vouchers and charter schools are 2 entirely different things.

Charters schools are public schools with no tuition and cannot pick and choose their students.

Vouchers are, well, vouchers provided by the state and can be used to pay for private schools.

Charter schools are a great thing. They increase competion in the public school system. It's not just the same people coloring the walls differently. That's a bit much.

But, I do agree that society as a whole should place more importance on education.

Mr Awe

 

[Newski]

My father and Stepmother are teachers in the Chicago Public School System. They, like many other people, worked at Charter Schools as well. They took a cut in pay just so they could work at schools that need good teachers.


The difference between a Charter School and a Public school is the Parents have more money, and the Teachers get paid more. Few students, higher standards of enrollment....


So, how does making Charter Schools more accessable work? How does trying to get rid of public schools solve the problems? We are moving the problems from Public Schools to the Charter Schools.



So, how about we look at the problem. Vouchers are one of those hilarious "Magic Solutions" based on the stupid idea that the problem is simple. Very simple. What is the problem with public schools?

I'll give you a hint:

It's not Funding. It's not the Teachers. It's not the Students. It's not that Student to teacher ratio some people think is so damn important? What is it?

It's all of that, plus various problems that go a long with each one. Let's stop assuming the problem has a magic-cure all solution. It's like selling homeless babies for meat to end poverty, it's an assumption that the problem is just that simple.

 

[Mr Awe]

Let's stop assuming the problem has a magic-cure all solution. It's like selling homeless babies for meat to end poverty, it's an assumption that the problem is just that simple.

Huh? I don't think anyone is assuming that there's a simple solution.

Mr Awe