Not familiar with the laws of thermodynamics, I take it?
I work in a supermarket. The food that doesn't sell, we dock the price and sell again. We don't just throw it out.
vigilante "justice"
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Not familiar with the laws of thermodynamics, I take it?
I work in a supermarket. The food that doesn't sell, we dock the price and sell again. We don't just throw it out.
You mean, with the 3 well established laws, the tentative fourth, and in some cases proposed 5th and 6th?
Yes, I'm familiar with them.
Furthermore, I've observed the process of conversion.
The technology is here, and it can be utilized to great extent (oh I don't know ... such as clean up the planet).
The only reason why it's not, is due to 'money', which is what the people in charge have said themselves.
I work in a supermarket. The food that doesn't sell, we dock the price and sell again. We don't just throw it out.[/QUOTE]
Various stores follow this kind of a business model, but I'm talking about various chains of other supermarkets in US that frequently dispose of food by throwing it away if it doesn't sell, despite the fact it's well within the usable date of consumption.
There was a thread about this not too long ago in TNZ if I'm not mistaken ... or was it in Miscellaneous?
By “conversion,” do you mean something like the “joe cell” -- the 21st century's version of perpetual motion?
Money is a facilitator, not an obstacle.
You got something against money?
http://www.working-minds.com/money.htm
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Not exactly.
I'm referring to Thermal depolymerization.
Although the 'joe cell' looks to operate on a very good concept.
Money started to be an obstacle for every major thing that could change life for plenty of people a long time ago.
How many times are we hearing 'we don't have the money' to do something?
Constantly, and yet, the money in question is poured heavily into a ton of wasteful enterprises, not to mention the military (the US is a prime example of this practice).
Lol ... that link is a bunch of garbage (in my opinion respectfully) piled against one another (much like the garbage being produced globally and nothing being done about it).
The 'root of all evil'.
What a ridiculous and primitive concept (similar to the plethora of stupidities that were produced by human intellect ... money being one of them).
In any event, I don't want to get the thread more off-topic than it already is.
Money is not an obstacle. The obstacles are the things that divert money, like greed and war.
Indeed.
True to an extent, but money is also conveniently used by people to get into power, gain control over others, and then in numerous cases greed ensues, as does war.
Also, what if a person is born under such circumstances where they cannot gain access to any money which was made as a necessity for survival (because, it's what's happening around the globe, even in US to a great extent).
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This is yet another one of those Everyone's a stupid, mean idiot but little old me! thread.
I never go to TNZ, but I'll go now and see how angry some people's posts are there. See how 'civilized' they are when it's some issue like taxes or something that should be discussed with a cool head but goes all nutty on a bulletin board for Star Trek
I never go to TNZ, but I'll go now and see how angry some people's posts are there. See how 'civilized' they are when it's some issue like taxes or something that should be discussed with a cool head but goes all nutty on a bulletin board for Star Trek
The simple fact is, Nardpuncher, I was very frustrated and angry. Why? Because I can't stand the desire to inflict suffering on others to boost your own sense of satisfaction, and yet experience has taught me the majority of people do not share my outlook, and indeed happily own up to liking inflicting suffering while jeering self-satisfactorily. Dismiss this thread all you will, but it's quite annoying to try and make a stand against this sort of toxic attitude among so many people only for you to essentially say "blah blah yakitty yak moan moan moan, stop making a big deal out of things". Well it IS a big deal.
As I've said before, there is no hypocrisy here, at least not on my part.
"Civilized" doesn't mean a lack of passionate arguing and squabbling, it means a lack of torturing and humiliating others to boost your own esteem or demonstrate your superiority.
And I'm not in TNZ, by the way. I don't visit that forum.
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I don't really think it is all that big of a deal, you've said yourself that everyone has violent thoughts.
So some people voice them without thinking, I find it crass personally, but for the most part we are talking about good people who don't act violently regardless of what they say.
So some people voice them without thinking, I find it crass personally, but for the most part we are talking about good people who don't act violently regardless of what they say.
I don't know. If a judge is incompetent and the trial gets delayed to the year 4056 or something, I'm all for an armed citizen taking the law into their own hands. But brutally punishing non-violent criminals is another thing. If people keep trying to be neutral- the thing that humanity is worst at- eventually "vigilante" justice is going to happen every now and again.
If there was even a moments thought that went into this sentence, then I feel somewhat sorry for you.
Not to defend TNZ's uh, honor, but continue to read Flux's "some dude kissed my gf" thread here in Misc. About every 3rd post is someone saying how he should beat his chest a bit and then kick the shit out of the guy. You know, for crimes like not respecting that Flux called dibs on the girl, etc. Like I said to start, we're not any better here than the other places we want to use as the bad example...
gotta agree with Scout, Im very much of 2 minds of stuff like this, I want to see things work within the law, I really do, I think it should, but experience has taught me the hard way that sometimes that just doesnt cut it.
Im going to copy my last post from Flux's fore mentioned thread and then pose a question
ya know, I used to be that way, wouldnt do anything "wrong" for any reason, but in my very own life Ive seen people I care about dearly get hurt, one get dead, because I valued my morals more than I valued them. I am very much of 2 minds about these types of situations. if you can put a stop to something before it gets bad, is it worth taking semi-drastic action? I dont know, maybe? I dont have all the answers, best advice I can ever give is, there is no perfect advice for any situation, its up you your and yours to do what you think is best, then to hope it ends up being best.
So, the question is right smack in the middle of that,
if you can put a stop to something before it gets bad, is it worth taking semi-drastic action?
like I said, I dont have an answer to that one, and I hope i am never again put in a situation that I have to choose one.
Im going to copy my last post from Flux's fore mentioned thread and then pose a question
ya know, I used to be that way, wouldnt do anything "wrong" for any reason, but in my very own life Ive seen people I care about dearly get hurt, one get dead, because I valued my morals more than I valued them. I am very much of 2 minds about these types of situations. if you can put a stop to something before it gets bad, is it worth taking semi-drastic action? I dont know, maybe? I dont have all the answers, best advice I can ever give is, there is no perfect advice for any situation, its up you your and yours to do what you think is best, then to hope it ends up being best.
So, the question is right smack in the middle of that,
if you can put a stop to something before it gets bad, is it worth taking semi-drastic action?
like I said, I dont have an answer to that one, and I hope i am never again put in a situation that I have to choose one.
Ah, so if the system is taking too long in some drooling gun nut's opinion, then it's okay for them to take the law into their own hands.
Then, by the same token, if the system is too lenient in some drooling gun nut's opinion, then it's okay for them to take the law into their own hands.
And, of course, if the system finds the accused innocent and some drooling gun nut disagrees, then it's okay for them to take the law into their own hands.
Plus, naturally, if the system decides that something is legal and some drooling gun nut thinks it should be illegal, then it's okay for them to take the law into their own hands.
"But yer honor, me and the boys jest decided it was plumb wrong."
"Oh, well then. Case dismissed."
Then, by the same token, if the system is too lenient in some drooling gun nut's opinion, then it's okay for them to take the law into their own hands.
And, of course, if the system finds the accused innocent and some drooling gun nut disagrees, then it's okay for them to take the law into their own hands.
Plus, naturally, if the system decides that something is legal and some drooling gun nut thinks it should be illegal, then it's okay for them to take the law into their own hands.
"But yer honor, me and the boys jest decided it was plumb wrong."
"Oh, well then. Case dismissed."
Paul, you aren't agreeing with me. In fact, I was using your posts as an example of what's WRONG with these threads. The guy did nothing wrong, and you're trying to justify beating the shit out of him...
Im not justifying anything, im just posing a question. and besides theres lots of ways to get peoples attention without assaulting them.,
hey RJ, you jump to alot of conclusions there dont ya? I love how you make fun of people too. you automatically assume that anyone who takes the law into their own hands is a redneck and owns a gun and therefore they must be just completely out of their mind, right? wow, love that you must be a real winner. Im sure if you look around, you can find examples of all kinds of people taking the law into there own hands, when people are pushed far enough, they tend to push back, whether thats right or wrong, I dont know...
I still havnt gotten a straight, Thoughtful answer to my question.
hey RJ, you jump to alot of conclusions there dont ya? I love how you make fun of people too. you automatically assume that anyone who takes the law into their own hands is a redneck and owns a gun and therefore they must be just completely out of their mind, right? wow, love that you must be a real winner. Im sure if you look around, you can find examples of all kinds of people taking the law into there own hands, when people are pushed far enough, they tend to push back, whether thats right or wrong, I dont know...
I still havnt gotten a straight, Thoughtful answer to my question.
^^ Pardon me, I should have been more specific. I was responding to a Post farther up that referred to "armed citizens" ignoring the law.
In answer to your question, I would say that it is of course a personal choice to take drastic action if it is felt that such action is warranted-- but the person must be prepared to face the legal consequences and not expect a Get Out Of Jail Free Card because they see themselves as a "vigilante hero."
In answer to your question, I would say that it is of course a personal choice to take drastic action if it is felt that such action is warranted-- but the person must be prepared to face the legal consequences and not expect a Get Out Of Jail Free Card because they see themselves as a "vigilante hero."
No problem. It was my fault.
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