Vantablack: Worth More Than Gold

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  1. Dryson

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    The article discusses how Vantablack is the closest that we will ever come to a black hole.

    Vantablack is composed of a forest of vertical tubes which are "grown" on a substrate using a modified chemical vapor deposition process (CVD). When light strikes Vantablack, instead of bouncing off, it becomes trapped and is continually deflected among the tubes, eventually becoming absorbed and dissipating into heat.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vantablack


    [SIZE=6]How are black holes detected?[/SIZE]
    Black holes are detected as surrounding material (like gas) is funnelled by the force of gravity into a disk around the black hole. The gas molecules in the disk swirl around the black hole so fast that they heat up and emit X-rays. These X-rays can be detected from Earth. Black holes can also be detected by watching for motions of stars near the black hole.

    http://coolcosmos.ipac.caltech.edu/ask/235-How-are-black-holes-detected-

    Gas and heat are generated in the disk swirling around a black hole, but not directly from the black hole itself.

    Could the center of a black hole be similar to the structure of Vantablack where there are trillions x 1000 of fibers like nano tubes that stretch into space that absorb light and then convert it to heat? Fiber like nano tubes that like the radiators on a space station dissipate heat away from the station and black hole?

    Is true then the radiator system of a black hole could transfer heat to another location in the Universe or another Universe for that matter where an area of space could be constantly heated by the fiber nano tune like structures coming from the black hole. Heat that would allow for particles to absorb more energy and become more active thus possibly causing a Big Bang to occur.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CMB_cold_spot

    Based on the above theory of the Black Hole Vantablack Nano Fiber Tubes could the CMB cold spot be a region further up the nano fiber tubes of a black hole? The closer you get to the CMB the colder it gets meaning that the nano fiber tubes..."Get".....could be releasing heat into our...."I said, stop it.".....universe. The higher levels of heat..."lol....if you don't get out of my ear." ...."Really...now you want to explore my nose....SMACK!....that's gonna leave a mark. Like I really needed a red mark in the middle of my forehead. How am I going to explain that one?" The higher levels of heat that are present the further away from the CMB could be the result of the nano tubes of the black hole spreading farther apart allowing for more heat to be present in a Universe that would allow for more energetic reactions to take place.

    "NOW THAT DID IT!"

    Hits the station wide "Red Alert" button.

    Runs down the hall with his arms in the air...."RED ALERT! RED ALERT SQUIDDLE SQUADDLE INVASION!......Ahhhhhh!....GET AWAY FROM ME!.........Ahhhhhh!"
     
  2. Dryson

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    Rethinking the Dyson Swarm

    Standby Starfleet....we are picking something up the from glyph....its a small packet a few terrabytes in size...its transmitting from a small egg shaped capsule

    Understood...beam it directly to cargo bay 214.

    Beaming now.....


    Vantablack, the closest color that has been created that does not allow light to escape.

    "Vantablack is composed of a forest of vertical tubes which are "grown" on a substrate using a modified chemical vapor deposition process (CVD). When light strikes Vantablack, instead of bouncing off, it becomes trapped and is continually deflected among the tubes, eventually becoming absorbed and dissipating into heat."

    Most of the time we think of large solar arrays collecting photons and then converting them into heat. But what if a SETI (Sentient Extra Terrestrial Intelligence) just a few hundred years more advanced than humans had incorporated a material similar to Vantablack into its energy harvesting and production systems?

    A collector would function basically the same as a Thermoelectric Generator. The only difference is that a layer of Vantablack material would line the outside shell of the collector on all of its faces to collect as much light as possible from all directions.

    The light is the bounced around inside of the vertically aligned carbon nano tube arrays where the light continually deflected among the tubs becomes absorbed and dissipates as heat.

    The heat is then transferred to a heat application layer where it is then converted into electrical power.

    This type of electrical generator would see a 100% power output with only a very small fraction of heat waste as most of the heat would be used to generate electricity.

    I don't know if this possible or not but is there a method to determine how much light or heat is present within the centers of each dip that takes place while the transit occurs?

    https://powerpractical.com/pages/how-do-thermoelectrics-work

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vantablack

    Such an array would create a lot of confusion like it has for Earth due to the reduced presence of Flux. But with a Vantablack material covering a TEG we can purposely assume that the reason why the Flux seems odd is because all of diminishing luminosity present because of the a Vantablack type material absorbing all photons that come into contact with the Vantablack material.

    A Vantablack Swarm would seem even more feasible than a Dyson Swarm and even more efficient at collecting solar energy than a TEG Array around a Super Gas Giant would because the material would collect all light passing through the area the Vantablack Array was located at.

    With this type of technology a star ship would never be without electrical power ever again. A star ship could reduce its mass by nearly 20% by replacing batteries that generate electricity to capacitors that store and transfer electricity.

    Einstein said that it would take an infinite source of power to operate a starship....how much more power do you need if it not be all of the light of the heavens.

    They called it Hope in the Darkness and all that does not glitter is gold.
     
  3. Asbo Zaprudder

    Asbo Zaprudder Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Erm, the light might get degraded to heat but that heat can easily be radiated as IR photons. Therefore, it's not a good analogy for a black hole, which only emits Hawking radiation.
     
  4. B.J.

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  5. Asbo Zaprudder

    Asbo Zaprudder Vice Admiral Admiral

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    No to @Dryson? Frankly, I don't have patience or time to correct all the wild, fantastical extrapolations. I admire the imagination but it probably needs to be tempered by accepted scientific reasoning. Let's not even ask for some calculation to back up the assertions and predict testable results of experiments.
     
  6. B.J.

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    Yeah, "NO" to Dryson.