Not a full fanfilm, but still damned impressive work.
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UNITY Project: an abandoned attempt to replace recycled STII footage
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Ah yes, I'd seen this before. From a series perspective it undermines the Spacedock reveal in TSFS.
Also, where are Kirk and Co. coming from? They beamed up to where to get that travel pod? Would they not just beam onto Spacedock? (Course, in TWOK why don't they just beam to the Enterprise in the first place?)
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Thanks for catching that. Fixed.
My main reaction is that not one CG shot looks like a plausible match for model photography, of which there is quite a bit of course in TWOK.
Beyond that, most of the new shots lose the scale and weight of the ship by placing it much smaller in the frame than the original shots, the lighting is bland and the animation is dull and slow - except for one shot of the shuttle backing into the torpedo bay at about five times the speed I'd back into a parking space.
Beyond that, most of the new shots lose the scale and weight of the ship by placing it much smaller in the frame than the original shots, the lighting is bland and the animation is dull and slow - except for one shot of the shuttle backing into the torpedo bay at about five times the speed I'd back into a parking space.
This is probably the most irresponsible and ignorant thread I've read in a while. I've never had to post here... until now!
The OP is categorically clueless. We see this type of lazy fan all the time on YouTube: watches just the last episode of a long series, doesn't read anything, thinks he can speak for production, and then publicly declares that the work doesn't exist. Wow!
This "UNITY" thing was never abandoned. It was finished and assembled on schedule as a complete movie in 2018. I saw it in 2018! Hell, it's been available several times since. It's now 2021. Get it? You're massively late to that party. You can cry if you want to, but you don't get to re-invent reality.
And it never ceases to amaze me how you armchair animation experts know so much, again when you've spent ZERO time following the project. I'll lay 10:1 odds that Maurice hasn't accomplished anything remotely close to this level of work. Who are you to give advice and tell people to read books?
Honestly, I think Serveaux's declaration was a bit weird, because the natural tendency of most artists is to reflexively point out their work, like "Hey, I see my 'greeble' there." Now I'm really curious, because all the CG artists are listed at the end. What's your model that was used in this project?
Bloodwing and Serveaux, I think delimited productions will like to contact with you!
The OP is categorically clueless. We see this type of lazy fan all the time on YouTube: watches just the last episode of a long series, doesn't read anything, thinks he can speak for production, and then publicly declares that the work doesn't exist. Wow!
This "UNITY" thing was never abandoned. It was finished and assembled on schedule as a complete movie in 2018. I saw it in 2018! Hell, it's been available several times since. It's now 2021. Get it? You're massively late to that party. You can cry if you want to, but you don't get to re-invent reality.
And it never ceases to amaze me how you armchair animation experts know so much, again when you've spent ZERO time following the project. I'll lay 10:1 odds that Maurice hasn't accomplished anything remotely close to this level of work. Who are you to give advice and tell people to read books?
Honestly, I think Serveaux's declaration was a bit weird, because the natural tendency of most artists is to reflexively point out their work, like "Hey, I see my 'greeble' there." Now I'm really curious, because all the CG artists are listed at the end. What's your model that was used in this project?
Bloodwing and Serveaux, I think delimited productions will like to contact with you!
On this board there is no option for disabling comments so, in my opinion, anything posted here is fair game for comments of all kinds. Look, I've had a couple of go arounds with Maurice and Serveaux can be prickly at times, but they are both knowledgeable in their fields and they are very generous when it comes to sharing their knowledge. Also if you can be arsed to go over their posts you will notice that even their most "negative" comments are not personally insulting. If you want to disagree with their comments, feel free. They're both big boys and they can take care of themselves, but implying that they are just a couple of know-nothings is laughable.
Serveaux is Dennis Bailey, who is the (credited) modeler of the Enterprise mesh used in the video. Blah, blah, late to the party, blah, blah, armchair experts who don't know jack, yadda, yadda.
That's very useful. You're there, too! I know there has been considerable effort at DP for the last few years to solve some of the limitations and flaws of Dennis' model. I can remember many, many strong comments to the various UNITY episodes specifically targeting the Enterprise model's lack of detail and why then production was actively avoiding tight camera angles. And here we have Dennis himself specifically maligning the fan's reluctance for close-ups. This is brilliant! Can't make this stuff up.
I don't see myself listed in the credits, just David Metlesits (who is a different person) but it does appear that the window-boxes I made for Dennis's model were used. I'm not salty about being left out, though, though, they're generally a subtle effect unless the shuttle bay door is open or something, and the way I put it up for download is very "some assembly required." I doubt anyone is going, "Damn, that subtle hint of the torpedo magazines through the windows in the neck is amazing, I must find the person responsible and hire him!"
Ah yes, ye olde "if you can't do better you can't criticize" saw.
One needn't be a professional musician to hear a bum note. Eh?
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The irony of someone trying to diss you with that tired old line would be funny if it wasn’t so sad.
Meh. I'm not in the habit of whipping out my C.V. to play the pointless game of whose dick is bigger because who's got the better endowed resumé is to miss the point entirely...which is this:
The "shut up unless you can do better" patellar reflex is a standard basically no one lives up to—sports fans criticize athletes whose performances they can't begin to match, people who can't draw a stick figure criticize artists, non-actors criticize actors, those who can't boil an egg critique meals by trained chefs, et cetera et cetera ad infinitum ad nauseam—so invoking it is both intellectually dishonest and also hypocritical.
If you're going to put your work out there in public you either need to accept that the audience is always right about what they do and don't like or cry out like a wounded yak at every perceived slight. That's a lesson I learned the hard way a long time ago. Accepting fair critique is how you learn and improve.
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Now I might have used your CGI more sparingly…but getting the torpedo docking was a must…but I would keep a tad bit more of the TMP reuse.
Now what I would like to see at the close of The Voyage Home is for the pod to circle Excelsior and then head for the spacedock door. It opens, showing the TMP dry dock in the distance…with TOS 1701-A inside.
Full circle
Now what I would like to see at the close of The Voyage Home is for the pod to circle Excelsior and then head for the spacedock door. It opens, showing the TMP dry dock in the distance…with TOS 1701-A inside.
Full circle
Man your posts come across as a assholeish.
The very first thing I see in this video is the word Forward. That should, of course, be Foreword. They're not the same word or the same thing.
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