Unihull Starship c2260

[Patrickivan]

Here’s a ship I’m playing with building. It’s a unihull design that takes place around the 2260’s. The saucer is 60 metres across. Each deck is about 2.5 metres. But the size doesn’t concern me greatly here. I’m just working on the shapes- trying to make it look the way I want.

This is what I have so far, and I expect it to change. The nacelles here are certainly going to change- but they’re not my focus since they will look like tradition TOS nacelles. The main thing is that it looks like it belongs in that time period (with more detail)

So if anyone has any ideas for details, I'm open for trying things out on it.

I wanted to give a clear line of sight for the deflector so that meant taking out 2 decks under the saucer rim (that was originally there). The dish may be a little small though.

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

Looks good. Maybe slightly pre-TOS and post NX class.

A nice intermediate between the two.

 

[judge alba]

very nice. it's similar to one i'm working on at present and it's given me a few ideas

 

[Patrickivan]

very nice. it's similar to one i'm working on at present and it's given me a few ideas

Any pics?

I'm working on componants right now (on my wordpress), starting with the 148m warp nacelle. I think I'm going to use full size Constitution class nacelles and saucer section. That will govern the size of the rectangular hull segment that I slide into place.

I think my big decision will be if I should include that underslung section that houses the main deflector and also some other engineering facilities, or leave it out. But then I need a place to put my deflector. Maybe it doesn't need the big one like a Constitution Class....

 

[Focus Abbey]

That saucer is pretty thick—why not inset the deflector in the section between the bridge dome and the saucer base?

 

[Patrickivan]

That saucer is pretty thick—why not inset the deflector in the section between the bridge dome and the saucer base?

Ya- this was just a rough build. The saucer will be the same as a connie's but to be honest, I'm not too keen on a deflector inset into the saucer. When they did it on Enterprise, I never really liked it. It makes sense having it there though.

Anyway- here's some of the bits I've made for this project. The saucer and nacelle(s) WIP's. I've made some changes to suit my own take on things- and besides, it's not unrealistic for there to be changes even within a class of ships being made.

Does anyone have any tips for windows? I've been drawing them on the surface and extruding into the ship, intersecting with the model, and then erasing the inside bits to leave an open window... Then I put on a transparent surface to suggest glass of some sort.

 

[Patrickivan]

I'm pushing on with assembling the componants I've been building. I'd explain what the images are- if this wasn't the Trek BBS!

I had a lot of trouble with the hull componant under the bridge. I just couldn't see how to build that aft part in my head. I tried all kinds of off extrudes and intersections and cuts and blah... I'm just not proficient enough yet. If I rolled a D20, I'd have a 14 on google sketchup. Maybe.

The Impulse engines will NOT be located here on this ship (see preliminary images way up above). I just placed them there to see what it would look like as if it were a normal Constitution Class saucer.

And here's some more already. Yay. Here’s the aft section to the unihull design. I may add a centre line section, aft to fore, along the underside of the aft hull section. This will add more engineering space and open up some room for a shuttle deck(s). It will also balance out the ship a little when I throw on the warp nacelles. Now with this design will have power plants in each nacelle, as well as power reactors in the main ship hull.

 

[sojourner]

get the plugins fredoscale and sketchyFFD. makes shapes like deck 2 much easier.

 

[judge alba]

patrickivan, got this early wip at the moment still working on detailing the saucer

will start my own thread soon so I dont cluter up your one

sojourner, just out of intreast where did you get the fredoscale and sketchyffd plug in? cant seem to find it on googles site

 

[Patrickivan]

patrickivan, got this early wip at the moment still working on detailing the saucer

will start my own thread soon so I dont cluter up your one

sojourner, just out of intreast where did you get the fredoscale and sketchyffd plug in? cant seem to find it on googles site

Cool! Are you planning on running that deflector from that point along through to the saucer and back? What size is that saucer? And how are you doing your windows? I'm sure that I'm doing mine the difficult way (see a few posts above).

Here are my latest updates. I didn't want to put my deflector where I did, but it was the most reasonable place.

 

[sojourner]

sojourner, just out of intreast where did you get the fredoscale and sketchyffd plug in? cant seem to find it on googles site

Try these two sites:

http://www.smustard.com/
http://www.crai.archi.fr/RubyLibraryDepot/Ruby/en_sections.html

 

[judge alba]

patrickivan, got this early wip at the moment still working on detailing the saucer

will start my own thread soon so I dont cluter up your one

sojourner, just out of intreast where did you get the fredoscale and sketchyffd plug in? cant seem to find it on googles site

Cool! Are you planning on running that deflector from that point along through to the saucer and back? What size is that saucer? And how are you doing your windows? I'm sure that I'm doing mine the difficult way (see a few posts above).

Here are my latest updates. I didn't want to put my deflector where I did, but it was the most reasonable place.

thanks. I'm thinking of pulling the deflector into the lower saucer dome near where it meets the lower 'floor' of the saucer which is about 147 meters diameter. as to the windows I'm doing it by cutting each window one at a time after drawing them on the face. takes quite awhile and there's probaly a quicker way to do it.

I like where you ship seems to be heading

 

[Patrickivan]

Here's some more work on the ship. Some nacelle details, and the struts.

There's more work to be done on the nacelles. More detail is needed. More. More!

 

[Focus Abbey]

This is looking good! I like the overall shape.

I wonder if there's a different placement for that deflector so that it could be a traditional circular shape, though. It looks very NX-01ish.

 

[Patrickivan]

This is looking good! I like the overall shape.

I wonder if there's a different placement for that deflector so that it could be a traditional circular shape, though. It looks very NX-01ish.

Ya- I know. I really didn't want to go there. But if I added some kind of strut dedicated to the deflector, it really takes away from the low profile and sensor signature.

As for it's more oval shape, well, we do have Enterprise as part of Trek history now, so I suppose there's no good reason that a ship 100 years after the fact couldn't have a similar set up.

I think it's staying for now. Unless I come up with a more reasonable location. But I'm pushing on. I can change that later if I want.

 

[Patrickivan]

I’ve done some more work on the nacelle componant, and placed it on the ship. There’s more work to come. This build has been the most complex compared to the Federation and Banting Class. It doesn’t look it, but there are many more componants and complex angles and curves.

The dark grey piece above doesn't look like that anymore. I've run some groves through it.

This was a super complex piece for me. So many curves and cuts and extrudes. It's hard to tell from this angle, but the horizontal grills are insert into a concaved piece set into the nacelle. It was a lot of work because I had to match the angle (tapered) nacelle. I loved doing it! And getting the angle of the nacelle and dimensions as close as I could do it with my skills, was so much fun.

Finally in one piece! There's still so much to do. Windows. Hatches. All the close up stuff that you can't see unless you zoom in, like RCT's and refuelling ports.

 

[Patrickivan]

I've decided that the ship needed more space for a shuttle deck. So I added one under the Engineering section. It was needed. I tried different configurations, including running it into the saucer, but it looked too Miranda-esque.

The circle (window) to the left of the shuttle door, is for the shuttle flight control.

The length of this ship is 271.95 metres or 892.25 feet. The nacelles are 148 metres and the saucer is 128 metres across.

More work to come!

 

[Kaiser]

im likeing the progress

 

[Patrickivan]

^Thanks.

I did some more windows today, and painted on some panels. It looks solid from afar, but more detailed as you get closer. Just the way I likes it.

 

[Patrickivan]

I've given the ship a name and class. It's the U.S.S. Saint-Laurent, Halifax Class Starship, N.C.C.-1867. Crew, 221.

I've done some work on some of the ship details. Including insignia, and some transmitter/receiver arrays on the underside of the saucer. The yellowish strips are for transporters, and the dark grey ones are for communications. Orientating the saucer's underside to the desired coordinates, greatly amplifies the transmission and reception of communication data.

The insignia graphics were created on a flat surface, and then extruded onto the surface of the ship. I am uncertain how I will achieve undistorted graphics on the saucer though...