This is what Star Trek so different than anything. There was a wierd surrealism in production values that made it seem almost dreamy and almost too bright. There was light everywhere - on the ship, in hallways - somehow more than there should have been. It was almost nirvanaish - warm and fuzzy and comfortable. The characters were stark in contrast. I just hope J.J. doesn't think like many before him that oh we're so much smarter and more clever than Roddenberry was. He meant well but... I just hope he is more thoughtful, but he does seem to project the image of the uber nerd and nobody is more clever than him.
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Bosh; I doubt he even knows about this board and he sure doesn't post here.
I suspect we'll get the bright colors and funky lighting. I hope the soundtrack is bombastic, too.
Well, with Giacchino the soundtrack is guaranteed to be appropriately big and evocative.
Bright colors? I hope so.
Funky colored-gel lighting? Not so sure - that's such a cliche on so many levels and has been for so long (not just exclusive to Trek) that it'd probably be hard to find a cinematographer or lighting designer who'd settle for it. I'm all for a brightly-lit ship but if they go that direction rather than with something closer to the submarine-dark sets of most movie spaceships I will be surprised.
One of my favorite "Voyager" moments (and in retrospect they're certainly few) was when the Kazon took over Voyager and the leader tramped onto the bridge, looked around and said "why is it so dark in here? Turn up the lights."
Bright colors? I hope so.
Funky colored-gel lighting? Not so sure - that's such a cliche on so many levels and has been for so long (not just exclusive to Trek) that it'd probably be hard to find a cinematographer or lighting designer who'd settle for it. I'm all for a brightly-lit ship but if they go that direction rather than with something closer to the submarine-dark sets of most movie spaceships I will be surprised.
One of my favorite "Voyager" moments (and in retrospect they're certainly few) was when the Kazon took over Voyager and the leader tramped onto the bridge, looked around and said "why is it so dark in here? Turn up the lights."
I hope this is brightly lit. A trend in too many TV shows lately has been towards more darkly lit and cluttered sets. One of my favorite TV dramas was 'The West Wing'. The first several seasons of TWW was bright lit and had an optimistic feel to it. The last 3 seasons or so of The West Wing, they switched to dimly lit sets, and the mood became darker along with the sets -- and the show more or less sucked in those last seasons.
...Coincidence? Or something more?
VOY and ENT also had more darkly lit and clutterred sets than TOS and TNG. I think there is a direct correlation between the set lighting and that comfortable feeling that everyone enjoys.
Vice versa. The lighting of a set is usually inspired by the mood that the scriptwriters and director wish to impart.
Wait ... so GR is an unqualified genius because he managed to include lightbulbs in his sets?
I mean I'm all for lighting being bright and all that, but cripes, they're lightbulbs, not something all that weird.
I think I'd like to see the older style costume designs and more colorful sets. It would be a nice change from having everything in bland beige and grey. While we're at it, can we get past the jumpsuits? Not everyone in the future is going to wear jumpsuits.
TOS was basically optimistic, but certainly not the trippy drugged out type of optimism you're implying. Just look at The Enemy Within, where the moral of the story is that evil is a necessary part of human nature. TOS was darker or at least more "realistic" than people give it credit for. It wasn't some goopy, mindless sort of optimism at all.
Or maybe you're talking about production design? Lots of bright colors, yeah. But remember back in the early to mid 60s, a lot of households still had b/w TVs and there was a concerted effort to make BRIGHT! COLORFUL! TV shows to sell color TVs to the techno-laggards and general cheapskates. I probably watched TOS originally on a b/w TV, come to think of it.
I was far too young to care...
Or maybe you're talking about production design? Lots of bright colors, yeah. But remember back in the early to mid 60s, a lot of households still had b/w TVs and there was a concerted effort to make BRIGHT! COLORFUL! TV shows to sell color TVs to the techno-laggards and general cheapskates. I probably watched TOS originally on a b/w TV, come to think of it.
I was far too young to care...Personally I like the darker lit sets and rooms, not only in Trek but in the real world also. It has nothing to do with mood for me (most of the time) though. I don't like bright lighting in general because it's actually harder for me to see across the room, and gives me headaches when I try if it's really bright. If I need a bright light shining in my work area, I use a desk lamp with a bright bulb, that I can adjust to shine right where I want it, and not flood the whole room.
Jumpsuits have some minor advantages from a wardrobe POV, which may not be as much of a consideration on a big budget movie with a lot of time.
I'm for brighter lights and more colors. The only thing I didn't like about the design on "Enterprise" was the relatively monochromatic look. TNG was the only modern Trek series that really embraced the "comic book" vibe that makes TOS visually distinctive.
I'm for brighter lights and more colors. The only thing I didn't like about the design on "Enterprise" was the relatively monochromatic look. TNG was the only modern Trek series that really embraced the "comic book" vibe that makes TOS visually distinctive.
not too many real things there, and bad food to boot.
But I agree (Gene's sainthood aside), I would love for more of the look of TOS, bright primary colors, rather than dark "Alien" look. But not completely: TOS has some great uses of darkness. Enemy Within, for example.
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