Spoilers Two big characters return for anniversary.

Discussion in 'Doctor Who' started by JoeZhang, May 15, 2022.

  1. StCoop

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    In eight days Russell has generated more worldwide headlines (front page in Variety and The Hollywood Reporter today and yesterday, for example) than Chibnall managed in three and a half years.
     
  2. Starkers

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    Depends if all those who tune in to see Tennant and Tate stick around for Gatwa. If anything partnering Gatwa with Tennant might have worked better.
     
  3. Starkers

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    Does it actually need the showrunner to do this though? You'd have thought the BBC public relations dept, Whittaker, Walsh etc could have filled in any gaps in Chibnall's toolkit?
     
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    It’s about making creative decisions that give PR something to work with. I do think Davies and Moffat both had a firmer hand on attention-grabbing high concept than Chibnall seems to. The balance of fan service and new audience seeking in the 2023 casting so far is a case in point.
     
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  5. StCoop

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    Somehow "Morbius Doctors Explained!" didn't move the needle. :devil:
     
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    With Matt Smith being in Morbius, does he count as a Morbius Doctor?
     
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    That’s what I initially thought it referred to!
     
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  9. jaime

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    There’s rumours of Smith, Capaldi, and Nardole coming back too.
    Are we just looping the Chibnall era right out of canon and giving Tennant a different coat at the same time?
    Well, what’s good for the goose is good for the gander… Chibnall fudged with continuity/what canon there is, and now it might be happening to his stuff as soon as it’s done.
    Can’t work out if that’s sad, or good.
     
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    Now we're picking up steam again. RTD is back to trolling fans. Chibnall never really engaged the madness of theories and future plot lines with the fans IMO.

    I never saw anything like "What could we possibly be hiding from you? Oh you just wait and see!" from him.

    RTD and Moffat really hyped up the fanbase with their teasing.
     
  11. StCoop

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    He just can't help himself... :lol:

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    Oh, come on, that's unfair.

    Every new Doctor generates large interest and especially every anniversary generates a lot of interest. Davies also has the extra weight of being a returning showrunner who has recently created two very successful limited series.

    Chibnall had new showrunner buzz and a new Doctor, one who was a barrier breaker and did generate a lot of worldwide interest.

    How many major headlines did Davies get during his run after bringing back the series? How many did Moffat? Moffat also benefited from the biggest anniversary. The only major unanticipated headline either of them had was when Moffat brought filming to the States as part of the show' successful outreach to America.

    I get it. You guys hate Chibnall and ready to see him leave, but, please, cut him some fucking slack.

    Like I said in another thread, I will not miss the fan hyperbole against Chibnall. I think I'm looking forward to that than most of you are about Chibnall leaving.
     
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  13. The Wormhole

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    Meh, everyone may love RTD at the moment, but once his episodes start airing everyone will find something to bitch about and then start reminiscing that "maybe Chibnall wasn't so bad after all."

    Nature of fandom.
     
  14. Evil Headhunter

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    True, but it's no less exhausting.
     
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    Might also remember that a fair chunk of RTD era stuff was actual dross.
     
  16. Starkers

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    I still want Moffat back...
     
  17. Brendan Moody

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    Every single person I’ve seen say “I’m glad RTD is back” has prefaced it with “I didn’t care for major aspects of his era, but”… Which tracks with what the first RTD era was like in real time: the general public enjoyed the show a lot more unreservedly than fandom. And that’s what people want back, I think: not so much the content of the stories, but the sense of Doctor Who as blockbusterevent television. Whether RTD can do that again remains to be seen.
     
  18. Tuskin38

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    If the curator was actually the doctor, then being able to regenerate into a previous look would make sense
     
  19. StCoop

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    Oh, lordy.

    Chibnall fans are busy trying to harass Russell off Instagram for spoiling his last episode, even though (a) he keeps reminding people about it and (b) even if there hadn't been any official announcements we'd still have found out everything they've announced anyway.
     
  20. Orac Zen

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    If some of the stuff I'm seeing actually comes to pass...well, I didn't think I could be much less enthusiastic about Davies' return, but I am.

    It does seem that way. Unfortunate, to say the least.