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Tv shows or movies that would transition well to Sci-Fi elements being added?

Jayson1

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Clearly not all shows can't. We all know how well that worked with Baywatch:Nights back in the day. But what ones that you think could maybe do it. I think Northern Exposure back in the day could have made the leap. Jurrasik Park movies could I think at this point transition to having the Dino's fighting Godzilla or King Kong or some big monsters as well.

Fargo sort of already did it but they could even push harder if they wanted. The Mission Impossible movies could do it.


Jason
 
I don't see it. I often struggle to see crossovers between separate sci-fi franchises.

Alien/Predator/Terminator just about works, Doctor Who/Hitchhiker 's guide too, but not many more. Non sci-fi franchises suddenly going supernatural, fantasy or sci-fi is a step too far for me. I found the idea of a Jump St./MIB hugely problematic...
 
JP is already sci-fi, I would say

Obviously. It's astonishing that anyone would think it wasn't. Godzilla and King Kong are fantasy. There's no science that could justify the existence of creatures that size. Jurassic Park is science fiction by the textbook definition, in that it's fiction driven by conjectural scientific innovation or discovery. More than that, it's specifically about the science, about scientists debating the ethics and consequences of scientific research as well as using their scientific knowledge to survive a crisis created by the irresponsible use of science. It doesn't get much more science fictional than that.

Mission: Impossible has always been borderline science fiction, often relying on technologies that don't exist in real life, like perfect masks and voice duplication. The original series often did plots involving computers more advanced than what was possible at the time, and the 1988 revival series often relied on fancifully advanced holograms to fool the marks. Although those are rarely more than surface trappings. At heart, what makes something science fiction is that the conjectural science or discovery is what makes the story happen, that the story would not occur without it. Technically you could say that about some installments where the mission is to retrieve or prevent the use of some dangerous scientific breakthrough, but such things are usually just MacGuffins, excuses for the spy caper that could be swapped out for just about anything, and thus still little more than surface trappings. (M:i:III lampshaded this with the Rabbit's Foot, pointedly avoiding telling us anything at all about what it actually was.)


To the basic question of the thread, I think it's generally unwise to change the tone of a series too drastically. If you've established a certain style or level of credibility, it's best to stick with that, or you risk undermining the consistency of the universe or alienating the audience. It can be done, to an extent; Arrow managed to ease in more fanciful elements gradually after its initial, grounded season. But even so, even now that it shares a universe with shows involving time travel and magic and parallel universes, it still feels incongruous when Arrow itself does storylines driven by evil magicians or a multiverse-threatening crisis. It's better for a given show to stick to its own lane, its own specialty and style, even when it shares a reality with more fanciful shows.

But it can hurt an SF show if it starts out with relatively plausible science but then gives way to more fanciful ideas. If a fictional universe starts out fanciful, that's fine, but if it establishes itself as grounded, plausible science fiction, then suddenly injecting fantasy nonsense undermines its believability. Too many shows have suffered when showrunners trying for credibility have been replaced by showrunners who didn't care or were too ignorant to understand the difference between SF and fantasy, so that the plausible worldbuilding gave way to sheer inanity (e.g. SeaQuest DSV or Gene Roddenberry's Andromeda -- or M.A.N.T.I.S., though its first half-season about fighting urban crime and corruption was almost as bad as the more X-Filesy second half).

As for non-SF shows being retooled as SF, I'm sure there must be examples other than Arrow, but nothing comes to mind. Outside of TV, though, the Dick Tracy comic strip qualifies. It was traditionally a hardboiled crime comic, although Tracy often used sci-fi gadgets and techniques in his crimefighting, like his iconic 2-way wrist radio/TV. But in the '60s, the strip swerved into outright sci-fi with spaceflight and a civilization of Moon Men becoming recurring characters. Tracy's son even married a woman from the Moon, who was a regular character for years, then eventually quietly dropped when the strip became more grounded again.
 
The first stream of consciousness thing that popped in my head was the "It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia" gang as ghostbusters.

Maybe have the Fast and Furious gang fight monsters with their cars. I mean they're already car sorcerers and wizards.

I also realized most of my TV viewing involves shows with some form of genre element to it.
 
Obviously. It's astonishing that anyone would think it wasn't.

Not to me, because I've already had my "How is this not science fiction?" moment with Jurassic Park. When I borrowed the original book from a public library ages ago, I found it in the plain Fiction section, even thought there was a perfectly good Science Fiction section two stacks away.
 
There definitely needs to be a Potterverse/MCU crossover at some point. Thanks to Doctor Strange (arguably much earlier depending on where you want to draw the line between science/magic/science-as-magic) the MCU has already established the existence of magic! :P
 
Not to me, because I've already had my "How is this not science fiction?" moment with Jurassic Park. When I borrowed the original book from a public library ages ago, I found it in the plain Fiction section, even thought there was a perfectly good Science Fiction section two stacks away.
That's because Crichton is considered a fiction writer. :shrug:
 
I don't think it would be that much of a leap for Vikings to go full on fantasy. It's already been kind of borderline IMO, with the seer giving accurate prophecies and there was even a character who could have Odin.
 
Remember when FELICITY found herself transported to an alternate timeline in its final season? Guess they figured they had nothing to lose at that point.

(They had also previously done a Twilight Zone homage episode that crossed over into genre a bit.)
 
Remember when FELICITY found herself transported to an alternate timeline in its final season? Guess they figured they had nothing to lose at that point.

(They had also previously done a Twilight Zone homage episode that crossed over into genre a bit.)

The mystery/procedural show Castle flirted with science fiction on occasion. One episode set at an SF convention revolved around the invention of a genuine portable laser weapon. And there was an episode involving alleged time travelers that made it fairly clear that the time travel really happened. I think I've heard that they went even further in that direction after I lost interest in the show.

Speaking of shows I lost interest in, has Riverdale crossed over fully into fantasy/horror territory yet? It certainly seemed to be flirting with it last I looked.

Then there was Happy Days, where an episode in which Fonzie met an alien named Mork from Ork turned out at the end to be just a dream -- but Robin Williams was such a hit as Mork that they gave him a spinoff and reshot the ending of that Happy Days episode to make it real in-show.
 
Family Matters started out as a very grounded family sitcom, but by the end had transformed into full on sci-fi with time travel, teleportation, and I think even clones.
 
Family Matters started out as a very grounded family sitcom, but by the end had transformed into full on sci-fi with time travel, teleportation, and I think even clones.
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Jason
 
Evidently Sam Esmail took on this challenge... as Mr. Robot seemed to get to that edge this season....
 
For some reason all I can think of right now is The Colbys and how Fallon got abducted by aliens... :lol:

Oh, I was totally going to make a joke about that, but I've been beaten to even mentioning it.


Well, what is "Full House"/"Fuller House" was really an evil intergalactic plot to over throw humanity and they were all pod people?
 
Oh I just remembered another non sci-fi show with a sci-fi plot. In the original Rosanne, Tom Arnold's character is abducted by aliens, and in the episode where it happens they show him on the ship with the aliens, annoying the hell out of them.
 
Law & Order crossovered with the X-files. Thanks to Munch appearing.

Criminal Minds coming across a serial killer who is actually a vampire or werewolf would be cool.
 
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