TV Ratings (Wednesday 8th October)

[Spot's Meow]

Very disappointed about Dirty Sexy Money. I love that show.

I have no idea why it gets such crappy ratings - it's a well written and original show with a great cast of very good actors.

Must be it's competition. Those CSI shows just suck in the viewers.

I think it's the advertising. I was flipping through channels and landed on this show the other day without knowing what it was. I was surprised to see a lot of bigger actors and it was an interesting story. I was even more surprised to learn that it was Dirty Sexy Money because that was not at all the image of the show that I had had in my mind. The first ads for it made it look like a trashy CW show, the kind where everyone has sex with everyone and then drama ensues. Since those first ads a long time ago I haven't even seen any other advertisements for it.
They marketed this show so incorrectly.

 

[Starbreaker]

That was a bad night all across the board except for Crimetime

 

[bigdaddy]

Crap. Bye bye Pushing Daisies.

Bye-bye ABC Wednesday night.

 

[wamdue]

you know we are all saying that every show (other than CBS crime shows) are over and should be axed, they cant axe everything, so something with low 6-7 million numbers might get kept when it might not normally

 

[Angel4576]

^^ Looking at NBC's lineup, with Lipstick Jungle, Knight Rider, Chuck and Life all underperforming I've got a feeling that at least one of them will survive, simply because, as you say, I can't see them axing almost everything.

Personally, I think Chuck will survive.

Bet they wish they'd kept Journeyman now!

 

[benny]

Something just occurred to me. Maybe the networks need to start learning to expect these kind of ratings for new shows. Because, lets face it: nothing on the broadcast networks which has debuted in the last two or three years pulls in monster ratings. The CSI's are all old; Desperate Housewives, Idol...the normal big players are older series.

If all the nets are seeing drastic ratings decreases, time to re-jigger the formula a bit. Instead of 22 or 24 episode seasons, everyone gets 13. You program new content year round. You take a chance on something "risky" like a Mad Men or Damages. Break out into originals and back to the time of the miniseries--epics like North and South or Roots.

 

[Top41]

I'm glad to see the CSI shows doing so well, but it certainly seems like procedurals are the only things thriving on network television right now.

I'm no expert, so I wouldn't really hazard a guess, but for me personally, there really isn't one new show on network TV that's grabbed my attention or made me really curious to watch it. I checked out Fringe and it's decent, but the premieres of Eleventh Hour and The Ex-List didn't really hold my interest. The same was true of last season--Pushing Daisies looked really cool and clever, until it became obvious that it was a cutesy version of a procedural that is handicapped by its premise. Private Practice is an unappealing version of Grey's Anatomy. Lipstick Jungle and Cashmere Mafia looked like the same show, as did Big Shots and Dirty Sexy Money. I'm sure they're not, but the marketing didn't do anything to distinguish them.

Then, contrast those shows with the offerings on cable: Mad Men, Dexter, Weeds, The Tudors, Entourage, True Blood...shows that are very distinctive and have the added benefit of being able to push envelopes the others can't. And I think that's a big part of the problem.

 

[Agent Richard07]

Something just occurred to me. Maybe the networks need to start learning to expect these kind of ratings for new shows. Because, lets face it: nothing on the broadcast networks which has debuted in the last two or three years pulls in monster ratings.

Knight Rider looks like it was made with this in mind. It doesn't look like it has a high budget that requires high ratings to keep it afloat. If this is the case, they were smart to do that. The show might have more of a chance that way.

 

[Captain Shaw]

I wounder how long [highlight]Pushing Daisies[/highlight] has left.

 

[nx1701g]

Something just occurred to me. Maybe the networks need to start learning to expect these kind of ratings for new shows. Because, lets face it: nothing on the broadcast networks which has debuted in the last two or three years pulls in monster ratings.

Knight Rider looks like it was made with this in mind. It doesn't look like it has a high budget that requires high ratings to keep it afloat. If this is the case, they were smart to do that. The show might have more of a chance that way.

Bionic Woman didn't have a high cost either though.

 

[Jax]

Something just occurred to me. Maybe the networks need to start learning to expect these kind of ratings for new shows. Because, lets face it: nothing on the broadcast networks which has debuted in the last two or three years pulls in monster ratings.

Knight Rider looks like it was made with this in mind. It doesn't look like it has a high budget that requires high ratings to keep it afloat. If this is the case, they were smart to do that. The show might have more of a chance that way.

Bionic Woman didn't have a high cost either though.

Bionic Women ratings were much lower than KR when the news came, KR could hold between 6.5-7 million which may be crap but lucky for it better than a lot of other NBC shows so it stands a good chance. Knight Rider I think can grow it audience over a season but it is paying for BW failure with people not bothering to give it a chance. It may be crap but its poprcorn crap and a nice way to spend 45 mins.

 

[Temis the Vorta]

Crap. Bye bye Pushing Daisies.

Bye-bye ABC Wednesday night.

The rest of it can go bye bye and I wouldn't notice. Freeing up timeslots for something better is always ok by me.

^^ Looking at NBC's lineup, with Lipstick Jungle, Knight Rider, Chuck and Life all underperforming I've got a feeling that at least one of them will survive, simply because, as you say, I can't see them axing almost everything.

Personally, I think Chuck will survive.

I think you picked the right survivor there...

Maybe the networks need to start learning to expect these kind of ratings for new shows.

They might still be able to stick with denial by blaming it on the WGA strike, but yeah, this is the trend of the future. They have to start finding revenue from avenues other than Nielsens.

 

[Agent Richard07]

Something just occurred to me. Maybe the networks need to start learning to expect these kind of ratings for new shows. Because, lets face it: nothing on the broadcast networks which has debuted in the last two or three years pulls in monster ratings.

Knight Rider looks like it was made with this in mind. It doesn't look like it has a high budget that requires high ratings to keep it afloat. If this is the case, they were smart to do that. The show might have more of a chance that way.

Bionic Woman didn't have a high cost either though.

Bionic Women ratings were much lower than KR when the news came, KR could hold between 6.5-7 million which may be crap but lucky for it better than a lot of other NBC shows so it stands a good chance. Knight Rider I think can grow it audience over a season but it is paying for BW failure with people not bothering to give it a chance. It may be crap but its poprcorn crap and a nice way to spend 45 mins.

I thought someone might mention Bionic Woman. It was also a show with a lower budget than the usual network fare, but Knight Rider comes off as something that was deliberately made the way it is so that it could withstand less than stellar numbers. I didn't get that with Bionic Woman.

 

[BigFoot]

^^ Looking at NBC's lineup, with Lipstick Jungle, Knight Rider, Chuck and Life all underperforming I've got a feeling that at least one of them will survive, simply because, as you say, I can't see them axing almost everything.

Personally, I think Chuck will survive.

I think you picked the right survivor there...

As a HUGE fan of Chuck, I sure hope you two are right. I'll be seriously unhappy if it gets cancelled.

 

[Temis the Vorta]

^^ Looking at NBC's lineup, with Lipstick Jungle, Knight Rider, Chuck and Life all underperforming I've got a feeling that at least one of them will survive, simply because, as you say, I can't see them axing almost everything.

Personally, I think Chuck will survive.

I think you picked the right survivor there...

As a HUGE fan of Chuck, I sure hope you two are right. I'll be seriously unhappy if it gets cancelled.

Fingers crossed for next Monday. Chuck needs to stabilize (and so does Heroes). The scuttlebutt is that the creative improvements that Chuck is making this season has given it more clout at NBC. And the odds of all NBC's struggling shows improve if nothing they air hits big this year.

This may be a good sign: NBC orders more episodes of Knight Rider, which has a demo rating very similar to Chuck. Chuck has already gotten a full season order, before the new season even started airing (which could be rescinded of course).

 

[PKTrekGirl]

Very disappointed about Dirty Sexy Money. I love that show.

I have no idea why it gets such crappy ratings - it's a well written and original show with a great cast of very good actors.

Must be it's competition. Those CSI shows just suck in the viewers.

I think it's the advertising. I was flipping through channels and landed on this show the other day without knowing what it was. I was surprised to see a lot of bigger actors and it was an interesting story. I was even more surprised to learn that it was Dirty Sexy Money because that was not at all the image of the show that I had had in my mind. The first ads for it made it look like a trashy CW show, the kind where everyone has sex with everyone and then drama ensues. Since those first ads a long time ago I haven't even seen any other advertisements for it.
They marketed this show so incorrectly.

That may well be so. To be honest, I wasn't watching it myself until I got ahold of a free promotional DVD of the series premieres of Pushing Daisies, Private Practice and Dirty Sexy Money. Like you, I though it would just be a trashy CW-like show, but one night I was bored and decided to give it a try. And it turned out to be a great show - outrageous extravagance combined with corporate intrigue and a nice little murder mystery. And the cast is just top-notch. It's hard to beat Peter Krause, Donald Sutherland, Jill Clayburgh, William Baldwin, and Blair Underwood, all in the same show.

But then, I tend to enjoy original shows. I just really don't get the draw of all of these CSI and L&O shows. It's like watching the same show 4 nights a week - different actors and different cities do NOT make an original show. And why people enjoy watching the same thing over and over is really beyond me. If I never see another episode of a L&O show, it will be just fine with me.