TV Ratings (Wednesday 24th November)

[Jax]

-Total Viewers:
CBS: 8.19 million, ABC: 7.36, Fox: 5.32, NBC: 5.21, CW: 1.44

-Adults 18-49:
ABC: 2.3 rating/7 share, Fox: 1.8/6, CBS: 1.7/6, NBC: 1.6/5, CW: 0.5/2

CBS

Survivor: Nicaragua Recap Show - 8.03 million & 2.0/7

Criminal Minds (repeat) - 9.18 million & 1.9/6

The Defenders (repeat) - 7.35 million & 1.3/4

ABC

The Middle - 8.18 million & 2.1/7

Better With You - 6.78 million & 1.9/6

Modern Family - 10.53 million & 3.7/12

Coguar Town - 6.72 million & 2.5/8

Primetime: Celebrity Plastic Surgery Gone Too Far? - 5.96 million & 1.8/6

FOX

Human Target - 5.60 million & 1.4/5

Hells Kitchen - 5.05 million & 2.1/7

NBC

Merry Madagascar (repeat) - 5.92 million & 1.5/5

Kung Fu Panda Holiday Special - 5.92 million & 1.6/5

The Biggest Loser: Where Are They Now? (2 hour) - 4.86 million & 1.7/6

CW

America’s Next Model (repeat) - 1.86 million & 0.7/2

Hellcats - 1.03 million & 0.3/1

Due to Thanksgiving I won't be another thread until next week with the Monday + Sunday & Cable combo.

Happy Thanksgiving all

 

[Mr Light]

Wow, the brand new Kung Fu Panda special gets almost identical ratings to a Madagascar rerun? I always wonder about those things. If it takes $100 million to make a 90 minute animated movie, how much does it cost to make these 20 minute holiday specials with all the same celebrity guest stars and animation quality?

 

[Jax]

Wow, the brand new Kung Fu Panda special gets almost identical ratings to a Madagascar rerun? I always wonder about those things. If it takes $100 million to make a 90 minute animated movie, how much does it cost to make these 20 minute holiday specials with all the same celebrity guest stars and animation quality?

The bigger question should be WHY THE HELL would you run an original 30 min show after a 30 minute repeat FFS NBC. I swear TV Exec's get dumber by the minute.

 

[Mr Light]

Well they need a similar show airing in the same hour block. If anything I would have put the new episode first then the rerun.

 

[Geck]

For holiday specials like that, I think definitions of new and repeat are pretty meaningless. I rarely watch any of the new ones, but I still watch the same Garfield and Charlie Brown, etc. specials that have aired every year since I was a kid. For a lot of people, they may be a bigger draw and lead in better to the new specials than the other way around.

 

[bigdaddy]

For holiday specials like that, I think definitions of new and repeat are pretty meaningless. I rarely watch any of the new ones, but I still watch the same Garfield and Charlie Brown, etc. specials that have aired every year since I was a kid. For a lot of people, they may be a bigger draw and lead in better to the new specials than the other way around.

Exactly, The Charlie Brown specials get 7+ million viewers a few times a year! I think ABC has aired the Thanksgiving one a few times now and each time it gets better ratings than every show on NBC! The thing is 40 years old and no one cares.

I'm so so sooooooooo glad about the Human Target demo number, soooooooooooooo happy.

 

[gh4chiefs]

I'm so so sooooooooo glad about the Human Target demo number, soooooooooooooo happy.

Since I have such a hard time deciphering demo numbers, I'm not sure how to take your comment. They appear bad to me? So are you saying you're glad it's taking a hit? If that's what you mean, why would that be a good thing?

Or are you serious and those are good numbers?

(Oh maybe I get it, you think it's demise will help another show possibly, like Fringe maybe?)

 

[Jax]

I think hes in the same camp as me...Your not Fringe (Bones & House for me also) then feel free to take a nose dive on FOX.

Human Target should not of gotten a 2nd season anyway the ratings for season 1 and the critical reception was poor and one or two episodes were on Idol night in season 1.

 

[Out Of My Vulcan Mind]

Human Target should not of gotten a 2nd season anyway the ratings for season 1 and the critical reception was poor and one or two episodes were on Idol night in season 1.

Its ratings were borderline, but it got a renewal as a stop gap series since Fox's development slate turned out poorly.

 

[gh4chiefs]

I think hes in the same camp as me...Your not Fringe (Bones & House for me also) then feel free to take a nose dive on FOX.

Human Target should not of gotten a 2nd season anyway the ratings for season 1 and the critical reception was poor and one or two episodes were on Idol night in season 1.

I guess I'm just not that cynical about TV shows. I figure, either I like something or I don't, and if I don't like it, I don't watch it. But I don't want to cancel something that somebody else might enjoy. I never feel like any show "should" be cancelled, I just don't watch them. In fact I tell people all the time that say that "such and such" show should be cancelled, that they have the power to "cancel" any TV show on the air. Just don't watch it.

However, I can understand if there's a show that you really like, and you feel that another show's demise will some how help your show, then I can understand rooting for that show's demise.

 

[Out Of My Vulcan Mind]

I guess I'm just not that cynical about TV shows. I figure, either I like something or I don't, and if I don't like it, I don't watch it. But I don't want to cancel something that somebody else might enjoy. I never feel like any show "should" be cancelled, I just don't watch them. In fact I tell people all the time that say that "such and such" show should be cancelled, that they have the power to "cancel" any TV show on the air. Just don't watch it.

Yeah, plus for anyone who enjoys scripted programming to root for a network's shows to fail almost across the board strikes me as cutting off one's nose to spite one's face. We should root for more strength and stability in scripted programming on the broadcast networks rather than a continuation of the medium's decline.

 

[gh4chiefs]

Exactly.

 

[Jax]

FRINGE's story needs a resolution so I would offer a favourable audience with the Devil to get a proper ending

 

[gh4chiefs]

FRINGE's story needs a resolution so I would offer a favourable audience with the Devil to get a proper ending

I can appreciate that.

 

[bigdaddy]

(Oh maybe I get it, you think it's demise will help another show possibly, like Fringe maybe?)

Bingo.

However, I can understand if there's a show that you really like, and you feel that another show's demise will some how help your show, then I can understand rooting for that show's demise.

I normally don't care. I don't like Chuck, but people do, so as long as Chuck topics don't take over this forum I don't care. If Fringe was on NBC with Human Target then I wouldn't about the numbers because NBC needs to keep the shows, they have 20 hours of TV to fill in for. Fox has negative 4 hours of shows (Stupid X Factor) so I need EVERYTHING on Fox to drop, including House and Bones.

Fringe is the best show on TV, and I NEED it to continue. From what I can tell very few people give a damn about Lie to Me, or Human Target. They are lame and nothing special, I think the same will be said about Chicago Hope or whatever the new Fox midseason show is called. So screw them to save Fringe.

FRINGE's story needs a resolution so I would offer a favourable audience with the Devil to get a proper ending

I agree, however how do we make a deal with Fox?

 

[gh4chiefs]

Well I wish you well with Fringe, but I hope you'll forgive me if I say I hope it doesn't happen at the expense of House or Human Target.

 

[bigdaddy]

Well I wish you well with Fringe, but I hope you'll forgive me if I say I hope it doesn't happen at the expense of House or Human Target.

I hope you forgive me for saying... "Fuck Human Target". But really, I think the chance of Fringe getting a fourth season is about 5%. But I that's still higher than I think Human Target has, unless it gets a 13 episode season just because it's a (cheap?) Fox show.

House is fine, same with Bones, even with it's move to the death slot. I want all Fox shows to be low, so it makes Fringe look good.

 

[Jack Bauer]

If I had to pick I'd take Fringe over Human Target. But I hate that since I like Human Target quite a bit.

 

[gh4chiefs]

Well I wish you well with Fringe, but I hope you'll forgive me if I say I hope it doesn't happen at the expense of House or Human Target.

I hope you forgive me for saying... "Fuck Human Target".

yes I do and I understand totally. I know what it's like when a show you really like is on the brink of extinction.

 

[Out Of My Vulcan Mind]

Other shows scoring low ratings won't help Fringe get a renewal this season. Its chances for renewal are entirely dependent on how it does on Friday nights. If by some slim chance it can keep its ratings erosion when it moves to Fridays to a reasonable level then it'll be back for a fourth season, but with Fox's development slate for 2011/2012 there's no way it's going to get one of the coveted time slots and its ratings have eroded too much to be kept in its current time slot. If Human Target, Lie to Me, and The Chicago Code all tank in the ratings it won't save Fringe if its ratings are likewise poor. Fox will simply cancel all of them. It has enough product in the pipeline for 2011/2012 to do so.