TV Ratings (Thursday 16th October)
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TV Ratings (Thursday/Friday 16/17th October)
First some news
Winners...
Honorable Mention...
Decent...
Losers...
Round-Up
CBS had a great night and continues to be the only network which season has not been ruined by the huge drop in Live TV audience, which is around 20% from one year ago. New show Eleventh Hour had a very good 2nd episode by increasing its viewers to 30,000 viewers and only losing 0.2 demo from the pilot.
ABC had a typical mixed night with Greys scoring well but it's down 3.47 million and 20% in the demo from one year ago. Ugly Betty has never recovered from its opening 1st season and is down 1.63 million viewers and 19 percent in the demo from one year ago. Life on Mars was down from the pilot by 2.86 million viewers and 27 percent in the demo but it will be in no real danger unless it drops below 8 million, which hopefully won't happen.
NBC's miserable start continues and My Name Is Earl needs dropping once it gets close to 100 and theres a decent re-tun package to sell. Kath n Kim dropped from last week and I can tell you now won't recover so don't get used to seeing it on the air. The Office & SNL continue to make a good solid partnership but I do bet NBC is so confused why they can't get higher viewer totals in there shows that gets great demo scores. ER saw the leaving of Abbey but it dropped in viewer from last week but the demo is solid for 10pm and maybe ER can leave the airways with some dignity after all.
FOX is trying hard to lose the crown it won last year as number 1 network and expect to hear the canning of Hole in the Wall sometime before next weeks episode. CW had a typical decent Thursday though am a little worried with Supernatural dropping to just above 3 million.
Friday ratings posted in same thread tommorow.
First some news
Winners...
Honorable Mention...
Decent...
Losers...
Round-Up
CBS had a great night and continues to be the only network which season has not been ruined by the huge drop in Live TV audience, which is around 20% from one year ago. New show Eleventh Hour had a very good 2nd episode by increasing its viewers to 30,000 viewers and only losing 0.2 demo from the pilot.
ABC had a typical mixed night with Greys scoring well but it's down 3.47 million and 20% in the demo from one year ago. Ugly Betty has never recovered from its opening 1st season and is down 1.63 million viewers and 19 percent in the demo from one year ago. Life on Mars was down from the pilot by 2.86 million viewers and 27 percent in the demo but it will be in no real danger unless it drops below 8 million, which hopefully won't happen.
NBC's miserable start continues and My Name Is Earl needs dropping once it gets close to 100 and theres a decent re-tun package to sell. Kath n Kim dropped from last week and I can tell you now won't recover so don't get used to seeing it on the air. The Office & SNL continue to make a good solid partnership but I do bet NBC is so confused why they can't get higher viewer totals in there shows that gets great demo scores. ER saw the leaving of Abbey but it dropped in viewer from last week but the demo is solid for 10pm and maybe ER can leave the airways with some dignity after all.
FOX is trying hard to lose the crown it won last year as number 1 network and expect to hear the canning of Hole in the Wall sometime before next weeks episode. CW had a typical decent Thursday though am a little worried with Supernatural dropping to just above 3 million.
Friday ratings posted in same thread tommorow.
Re: TV Ratings (Thursday/Friday 16/17th October)
Too bad about My Name Is Earl continuing to not do well. This season has been so funny after the weirdness of the end of season three. And, last night's episode has probably been my favorite of the new season. I hope that NBC at least lets it finish this year up with a full season or the audience comes back. I love this show and do not want it to end.
Too bad about My Name Is Earl continuing to not do well. This season has been so funny after the weirdness of the end of season three. And, last night's episode has probably been my favorite of the new season. I hope that NBC at least lets it finish this year up with a full season or the audience comes back. I love this show and do not want it to end.
I dont really follow Ugly Betty, but wasn't the premise supposed to be "ugly girl with heart of gold around beautiful people with hearts of coal"? Now they have her pined over by two men. Kinda defeats the purpose. They couldn't even wait till people got sick of it to jump the shark, they just torpedoed their premise in season two.
People are sticking with Eleventh Hour and bailing on Life on Mars? 
Well I'm not watching either but the latter is obviously the better one. Pretty low demo considering the audience for Eleventh Hour, I guess granny likes it. Between that one and Fringe, we're going to get an avalanche of X-Files knockoffs next season because now Hollywood thinks it's the next big thing.
Life on Mars' demo isn't so hot either. My Name is Earl has 2M fewer viewers and about the same demo. Maybe it appeals to codgers who remember the 70s?
Well I'm not watching either but the latter is obviously the better one. Pretty low demo considering the audience for Eleventh Hour, I guess granny likes it. Between that one and Fringe, we're going to get an avalanche of X-Files knockoffs next season because now Hollywood thinks it's the next big thing.Life on Mars' demo isn't so hot either. My Name is Earl has 2M fewer viewers and about the same demo. Maybe it appeals to codgers who remember the 70s?
Re: TV Ratings (Thursday/Friday 16/17th October)
My Name is Earl is finally getting good again, like it was when it first started.
My Name is Earl is finally getting good again, like it was when it first started.
Fringe really is an X-Files knockoff, which is why it's so old hat. Eleventh Hour is not.
As far as the "demo" is concerned, Life on Mars loses a much bigger proportion of its lead-in than Eleventh Hour does. Non-granny at large so far is turning thumbs down on LoM. The main attraction of Life on Mars is the joy of police brutality, not any writing quality, which makes its drop gratifying to the civic spirit. But it really is just a little soon to be sure Mars is setting. Also it is a little soon to be sure Eleventh Hour is pulling ahead, even though it is better written. Writing quality and ratings are not strongly correlated, as witness the good ratings for Fringe.
As far as the "demo" is concerned, Life on Mars loses a much bigger proportion of its lead-in than Eleventh Hour does. Non-granny at large so far is turning thumbs down on LoM. The main attraction of Life on Mars is the joy of police brutality, not any writing quality, which makes its drop gratifying to the civic spirit. But it really is just a little soon to be sure Mars is setting. Also it is a little soon to be sure Eleventh Hour is pulling ahead, even though it is better written. Writing quality and ratings are not strongly correlated, as witness the good ratings for Fringe.
Close enough. Cops investigate freaky shit = X-Files.
I just realized what Life on Mars' problem is: it's on the wrong network! It's lead-in is Gray's Anatomy. Well, guess what, women aren't going to watch Life on Mars, it's obviously a guy show. It should have been on Fox, maybe NBC but it's hard to do product placements when your setting is the 1970s.
Eleventh Hour is perfect for CBS. Formulaic procedural with that sappy, melodramatic CBS tone that granny loves.
not seen the US version, but women loved the UK version, they even loved Gene Hunt.
read this thread
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=765591
X-Files was cops investigate huge conspiracy plus horror anthology with Unresolved Sexual Tension between the leads along the way. That's Fringe. Eleventh Hour is not horror, Unresolved Sexual Tension is not an element, there's no big conspiracy, and, there's no "freaky shit." At least, not yet. There's some (tamed and restrained, to be sure) realism in Eleventh Hour, so far at least. It would make far more sense to call Eleventh Hour a cross between CSI and House. Or CSI and L&O: Criminal Intent.
The political heat about fetuses also makes chatter about granny liking Eleventh Hour BS too. Nor is it granny who gets all excited about homeopathy---that's for the trendy ninnyhammers and lobnoddies. Toning down Hood to suit the sensibility of the Marin County health nut audience was weak characterization, saved only by the fact there was no plot need for confrontation between Hood and the homeopath sow.
In any event, spouting drivel about Eleventh Hour, however good or bad it turns out, doesn't change the fact that Life on Mars' second episode was badly written. It would be really crazy to think that falsely tagging Eleventh Hour as granny TV makes LoM's pro-police brutality agenda somehow cooler, or truer, or even competent.
The political heat about fetuses also makes chatter about granny liking Eleventh Hour BS too. Nor is it granny who gets all excited about homeopathy---that's for the trendy ninnyhammers and lobnoddies. Toning down Hood to suit the sensibility of the Marin County health nut audience was weak characterization, saved only by the fact there was no plot need for confrontation between Hood and the homeopath sow.
In any event, spouting drivel about Eleventh Hour, however good or bad it turns out, doesn't change the fact that Life on Mars' second episode was badly written. It would be really crazy to think that falsely tagging Eleventh Hour as granny TV makes LoM's pro-police brutality agenda somehow cooler, or truer, or even competent.
Ah, but you forget about men who watch Gray's for the lovely Katherine Heigel and men who watch it so they get laid later that night. If they watch for both reasons...
These same men are going to probably keep the TV on for LOM for the cop show, the violence, the brutality, and the nostalgia of the 70s. Women may stick around for LOM for Jason O'Mara and for reciprocity for their guy watching Gray's.
This seems like a win in my book.
Ah, but you forget about men who watch Gray's for the lovely Katherine Heigel and men who watch it so they get laid later that night. If they watch for both reasons...
These same men are going to probably keep the TV on for LOM for the cop show, the violence, the brutality, and the nostalgia of the 70s. Women may stick around for LOM for Jason O'Mara and for reciprocity for their guy watching Gray's.
This seems like a win in my book.
I guess women who go for those overrated "hunks" on Grays would also go for fugly O'Mara, tho not enough of them to rescue the show if the ratings trend continues.
It will be interesting to see what ABC's standards are like; both NBC and Fox are being incredibly lenient nowadays, renewing Chuck and Heroes for a full season before they premiered (no doubt NBC has locked in enough product placements that ratings don't count like they used to), and Knight Rider and Terminator: Sarah Connor Chronciles being treated better than they "should" be. I'm sure Prison Break is safe for a full year, too.
When everything is stumbling in the ratings, you have to adjust your standards but I'm not sure to what extent ABC and CBS have been hit by this phenomenon. CBS probably is stable enough to hold out the longest.
I'm surprised that Everybody Hates Chris is still on. As for Crusoe, I watched about 15 minutes of it and changed the channel. I was looking for a thread on it so that I could make that comment, but no one started one.