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Trek's Weird Editing Choices

Ssosmcin

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One of the disadvantages of being a passionate fan of a 43 year old TV show that is available on video, TV and download, is that you watch it so many times, you stop paying attention to the stories and start picking up production details. Even if you were always aware of certain things, your mind begins to keep track of them.

What I’ve really started noticing more consciously is how wonkily edited some of early Trek is. I don’t necessarily blame them; deadlines were tight and this was a tough show to put out. It was also uncharted territory in many ways. The fact that the episodes themselves hold up well says more about the company than the screw ups do, But that doesn’t stop me from noticing them.

Some examples:

Charlie X has as a number of inserts, close ups and other reaction shots of the actors. Some of it is really mismatched and inconsistent. Focusing on the last act in particular, we have Charlie, after the majority of the episode being a jerk and terrifying, locks on a course to Colony 5. When the incoming signal comes in, he stands behind Uhura who gives him an acid look. Seconds later, he storms off the bridge and the close up of Uhura has her suddenly sad and nearly in tears. The next insert has Bones and Spock (who were not even standing close together in the long shots) side by side looking pensive toward the wall. Now Kirk, his expression one of concern, is facing away from the turbolift. All of these shots were taken from different parts of the episode and it shows. The scene following Charlie’s rampage through the ship has Kirk, Spock and McCoy discussing taking Charlie on. Spock is stone faced when Kirk asks him a question in the medium shot and Spock replies in close up and has a totally different expression and haircut! I think this is actually from another episode, but it escapes me.

Kirk’s sudden uniform change in the turbolift at the end of act 1 is legendary.

Of course, at the end, when Charlie is pleading to stay, we get a VERY odd “when I came aboard!” over a shot of the Thasian. This made me crack up even back in the early 1970s.

The Man Trap is famous for the inconsistent communicator sounds and prop oddities. There’s also a weird “grinding” noise when Kirk steps into the turbolift the first time. And then the shot of Spock during the opening log. This is actually stock from What Are Little Girls Made Of?. Kirk’s run to sick bay taken from the Naked Time (he’s not wearing a phaser in the clip).

Speaking of stock footage, the same close up shot of Kirk looking at the viewscreen is seen in The Man Trap, The Naked Time and Charlie X. He looks bemused and it never seems to match anything.

The Corbomite Maneuver: more famous shots of McCoy’s uniform changes; Balok’s dropped “one minute” (something that should have been fixed in the enhanced episodes) and the funny situation where Scotty has Kirk, Bones and Bailey “bend low – it leads pretty cramped over there” and seconds after materialization, they walk over a few feet and stand upright without a problem. Oh Scotty, that prankster.

Mudd’s Women has more fun with an insert of McCoy in the beginning, taken from Sick Bay when he’s in the transporter room.

The Enemy Within is great for these things. The images were flopped a couple of times (for artistic reasons? Maybe) and it’s obvious some scenes were put in out of order (Kirk being told of the transporter malfunction prior to Janice’s attack). I have a suspicion this was the decision of Leo Penn. He’s had a couple of episodes on other series where his scenes make more sense in a different order.

There are more and it went on here and there throughout the series (flopped shots of Shatner with his part on the wrong side, etc.). It doesn’t do anything to take away from the series and they are merely nitpicks. But, even so, I invite you to share others you’ve found just for grins. As I said, the deadlines for the series were incredibly tight and they did amazing work. Please take these little jabs in the light hearted spirit in which they are presented.
 
One of the editors on the original series complained that Roddenberry seemed not to understand that you have to put together a show from footage that actually got shot, not from the script as it was conceived on paper. With the short shooting schedules and complexity of the show, one can imagine the frustration of some of these guys poring through the film looking for close-ups and reaction shots to substitute for coverage that didn't exist.
 
Yeah, it was just a matter of being so rushed and the directors not getting enough coverage of a scene.

It is kinda distracting when they had to reuse close-ups/shots from other episodes, or flip the shot so the character is looking in the right direction, but it doesn't really bother me too much.
 
It is kinda distracting when they had to reuse close-ups/shots from other episodes, or flip the shot so the character is looking in the right direction, ...
Did any of this ever really happen, though? I don't recall a shot that was a re-use from another episode. I might remember it wrong, though.
 
It is kinda distracting when they had to reuse close-ups/shots from other episodes, or flip the shot so the character is looking in the right direction, ...
Did any of this ever really happen, though? I don't recall a shot that was a re-use from another episode. I might remember it wrong, though.

I know there were shots of Sulu at the helm, looking back that were reused a number of times throughout the series. I'm pretty sure there were others, but I cant think of them off the top of my head.

A book called "The Nitpickers Guide to Classic Trek" lists all of them, but I unfortunately do not have it anymore.
 
It is kinda distracting when they had to reuse close-ups/shots from other episodes, or flip the shot so the character is looking in the right direction, ...
Did any of this ever really happen, though? I don't recall a shot that was a re-use from another episode. I might remember it wrong, though.

Absolutely...stock footage was re-used all the time. I don't think that Nitipicker book is worth buying...if you can rent it and then.... *ahem ahem*...that's what I did.

Well I'm so glad that bullshit like this has never hindered my TOS watching experience in the least ! I can't imagine any of it being deemed a "distraction".......a distraction....Really????
 
It is kinda distracting when they had to reuse close-ups/shots from other episodes, or flip the shot so the character is looking in the right direction, ...
Did any of this ever really happen, though? I don't recall a shot that was a re-use from another episode. I might remember it wrong, though.

Well, here's an example:

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If you guessed that I snagged this screen shot from "Where No Man Has Gone Before," you'd be wrong. It's from "The Man Trap." They simply decided to use some "people racing around during red alert" footage from the second pilot.
 
Considering the speed at which they were shooting the episodes, and the complex nature of producing the series, I can easily forgive some editing or production errors in the early episodes. And the stock or reused footage has never bothered me. They worked with what they had.
 
Considering the speed at which they were shooting the episodes, and the complex nature of producing the series, I can easily forgive some editing or production errors in the early episodes. And the stock or reused footage has never bothered me. They worked with what they had.
Agreed.

Some of the scenes mentioned involved coordinating a number of shots together. Who knows how complicated it might have been with the editing tools of the day.

However, there were a couple of things that really annoyed me, which I think could have been avoided. The movement of the Enterprise. Apparently the large model was difficult to work with. At some point, they just suspended the ship from a string and bobbed it around, rather than trying to work with elaborate camera movements around a fixed ship. It looked ridiculous.

Also, in some episodes like "Balance of Terror" there were some major editing goofs on the use of photon torpedoes. You see closeups of the torpedoes coming IN towards the view screen rather than heading out and away, as having been fired from the Enterprise. Also, there were a couple of times when we saw these small balls of light slowly approaching the saucer section, and nothing happens. It's like the editor chose the wrong footage. Maybe they were doing it without magnification and missed the subtlety. But it looks rather ridiculous on the screen.

At least with the remastered versions, all of these special effects goofs are eliminated. :)
 
In "Is there in Truth no Beauty?" there's a continuity gaffe during the scene where Spock mind-melds with the Medusan. As Spock is piloting the Enterprise, there's a cut to a viewing screen shot, and you can see the person at the help is wearing a gold uniform. I'm surprised they didn't fix it for the remastered version, as it seems kind of simple to change gold to blue.

There are also a lot of reused stock shots from the first season seen in third season episodes, such as in "The Light's of Zetar" where we see an overhead shot from the first season cutting to a third season close up of Shatner. There are also several uses of toward the viewscreen shots showing Billy Blackburn in the navigator's seat, cutting to Walter Koenig.
 
While I agree with all of the above, remeber that this was not a situation unique to Star Trek - it was just the way TV shows were done, and edited in the 1960ies. Episodes of Bewitched; Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea[/b]; Lost In Space; etc. all had similar things as back in the day, a fuzzy 25" color TV (using rabbit-ears) was the BEST medium an audience would see it on, with the most common being a fuzzy 13" Black & White TV.

IF they EVER thought this stuff would be remastered to near actual film resolution, and then shown on 42" to 73" widescreens; I doubt they would have been as happy, or easy going with the work and the result. ;)
 
I know there were shots of Sulu at the helm, looking back that were reused a number of times throughout the series. I'm pretty sure there were others, but I cant think of them off the top of my head.

That was an intentional stock shot that they wanted to use for other episodes. Robert Justman talked about that in the Star Trek Story book. They spent time filming reaction shots they knew could be used again and again.
 
Many shots were used more than once, but this never bothered me. They did what they had to do. It was a cost saving measure.

I have to disagree with the original poster on the editing issue. Many, many episodes of TOS are extremely well edited. This is true all the way through S3. They knew what they were doing with good establishing shots, close ups, and good shot progression. If you watch shows from the same era, you rarely see the type of camera work and editing you see on TOS. A few eps that come to mind are "Balance of Terror," "The Enemy Within," "The Corbomite Maneuver," "Space Seed," "Spectre of the Gun" "All Our Yesterdays," and "The Galileo Seven." They were good at mixing medium shots with reaction shots and were creative when it was called for (the walk to the gunfight in Spectre, to name one example). Bonanza, from the same era and which I like as well, has a far more pedestrian style that was typical for the era. I am about the same age as the original poster, but to me TOS' editing style looks better, not worse, with time.
 
In "The Naked Time" Kirk runs over to Riley's chair and spins it around so that Riley is facing him. Kirk's hand is on the back of Riley's chair. Instant cut to a shot of Riley from Kirk's POV and Kirk's hand is nowhere to be seen on the chair.
 
It's been said about Trek and other shows made at the time "It was only meant to fly once...maybe twice."

At the time they'd often do nearly 40 episodes of a TV show per sesaon. (Weird how today that's cut about in half.)

Most episodes would air only once, with a select few being run a second time over the summer hiatus.

Sydication was rare where old shows were concerned, but then that all changed.

People ended up being able to see old shows again and again, and in Trek this led to the "How many runs does Uhura have in her stockings in THIS episode?" type of thing.
 
I have to disagree with the original poster on the editing issue. Many, many episodes of TOS are extremely well edited. This is true all the way through S3.

You misunderstand my post. It wasn't a general criticism of the editing of the three seasons of Star Trek. It was an observation that the earliest episodes had numerous gaffes. A couple of episodes have more than others, owing to tight deadlines and working the bugs out.

I'm not talking about reuse of stock footage like ship passes and establishing shots, every show has stock shots. I'm talking more about things like when a close up and a medium shot in the same scene of the shame characters doesn't match in wardrobe, hairstyles and actor expressions. Or a scene is out of place, or a line of dialog is nonsensical thanks to a misplaced overdub and how these things cropped up more in the beginning, particularly in the first 5 or 6 filmed episodes.

None of these things bother me, actually I find them amusing and yet another aspect of the show to discover. I agree 1000000% that Trek had a unique style that very few other programs achieved.

But really, how often to people notice well edited shows? Pretty much never since a well edited show does not draw attention to itself. What does get noticed is a mistake. Lots of early episodes of challening TV shows have goofs, but since we're talking about Trek, there ya go.

I don't personally think this is something that needs defending, they're just observations. Which is why I stated my awareness of the deadlines, challenges and costs. After 40+ years, you gotta talk about something, right? Let's not suck the fun out of it.

"When I came aboard!!!"

Kapeesh? Cool beans.
 
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