Trek 11... here are the "stars"....

[Kieran]

Star Trek 11

Chris Pine as Kirk

Zachary Quinto as Spock
Leonard Nimoy as Spock

Karl Urban as Leonard 'Bones' McCoy

Simon Peg as Scotty

Zoe Saldana as Nyota Uhura

John Cho as Sulu

Anton Yelchin as Pavel Chekov

Eric Bana as Nero

Bruce Greenwood as Christopher Pike

There ya go... the "savers" of the franchise.


SPOILER... READ NO FURTHER.................. <YAWN>






































The film explores the origins of James T. Kirk, Spock and the crew of the USS Enterprise from the original "Star Trek" series and how these iconic characters came together. According to rumors, the story involves an elder Spock (Nimoy) following a group of Romulans (led by Nero, played by Bana) into the past to prevent them from killing a young Kirk (Pine) and thus altering the timeline. To do so, he will have to enlist the assistance of his younger self (Quinto).

Going into the past to prevent something that alters the present... and the future... while enlisting the aid of one's "younger self".

WOW... I'm STUNNED because of the GROUND-BREAKING NATURE of this storyline.

No mention of NAZIs...

 

[Jon1701]

Wait a minute, are you telling me there is a new Star Trek movie coming out?

When?

 

[Kieran]

jon17HoHoHo1 said:


Wait a minute, are you telling me there is a new Star Trek movie coming out?

When?

Nah... just watch a recording of any number of past versions of Star Trek. The cows at Paramount have chewed this cud previously.

 

[Peach Wookiee]

Sorry, guys, this belongs in the Trek XI forum... got to move it...

 

[Skywalker]

I'm glad we're getting a bunch of little-knowns for these characters, a whole crew of A-list stars would have looked silly and ridiculous. :thumbsup:

 

[AdmiralGarak]

^Oh, you underestimate Star Trek. I'm sure this bunch of little-known actors will look every bit as silly and ridiculous as a crew of A-list stars would have.

 

[Michael Chris]

I cannot wait!

 

[Clym]

The idea is terrible. Does anyone really care about how or why the crew came together? Apart from hardcore fanboyz of course. I doubt the general public/casual fans give a shit.

And a prequel? Prequels always work fantastically well don't they? I mean, just look at Enterprise and the Star Wars Prequel Travesty.

And the film is going to involve...wait for it....Time Travel! Woohoo! Never seen that done before.

I simply cannot wait!

 

[Dane_Whitman]

Yeah let's start an online petition to convince TPTB to end this debacle before it has a chance to take a huge dump on the near-perfect Star Trek franchise!

 

[Michael Chris]

Is this a parody thread?

 

[Cary L. Brown]

Any thread of this sort is a parody thread. Whether or not the people posting in it REALIZE that they're the subject of their own parody is another matter altogether.

As far as I can tell, the two opinions being voiced here are:

1) Star Trek will suck unless the entire cast is made up of this week's current "hot studs and babes" list.

2) Star Trek will suck no matter what.

Did I miss something?

 

[Plum]

Michael Chris said:
Is this a parody thread?

If by that you mean an example of how ignorant some apes can be given certain circumstances (a computer)... then yes.

 

[Clym]

Any thread of this sort is a parody thread. Whether or not the people posting in it REALIZE that they're the subject of their own parody is another matter altogether.

As far as I can tell, the two opinions being voiced here are:

1) Star Trek will suck unless the entire cast is made up of this week's current "hot studs and babes" list.

2) Star Trek will suck no matter what.

Did I miss something?

so now anyone voicing criticisms/concerns/negativity about XI is automatically parodying themsleves?

I have no idea if the OP intended the thread to be a parody or not.

 

[Tamek]

I think this thread is a hoax.

No way would Paramount and Viacom throw good money after bad on Star Trek.

There is not going to be another Star Trek movie.

The OP is pulling our legs.

I suppose he would like us to believe that JJ Abrams is involved in it.

 

[Skywalker]

Cary L. Brown said:
Any thread of this sort is a parody thread. Whether or not the people posting in it REALIZE that they're the subject of their own parody is another matter altogether.

As far as I can tell, the two opinions being voiced here are:

1) Star Trek will suck unless the entire cast is made up of this week's current "hot studs and babes" list.

2) Star Trek will suck no matter what.

Did I miss something?

Nope, I meant what I said. I'm glad this movie won't have an A-list cast.

 

[Cary L. Brown]

Clym said:so now anyone voicing criticisms/concerns/negativity about XI is automatically parodying themsleves?

Not at all. But there's "concern" and there's paranoid delusion.

Saying "I'm worried that without big-name stars, the film will not pull in the same audience it might otherwise have been able to pull in." This can be disputed, but it's not an unsupportable argument.

Saying that the movie is going to suck, because the casting choices aren't for people who the OP already knows well, is just silly.

Everyone is huge on Matt Damon, it seems... yet there was a time he was "unknown." Name ANY "big name actor" and you'll be able to pick out a time that this actor wasn't "big name" at all.

What we should be concerned about:

(1) if the actor is physically suited to play the role;

and, at least as importantly:

(2) if the actor is SKILLFUL ENOUGH to put on a convincing and simultaneously entertaining performance.

And let's be blunt... many of the so-called "A-list" actors and actresses got there due to factors beyond their acting abilities. Some of the current "popular" players couldn't act their way out of a paper bag! And certainly many of the currently "unknow" actors out there have tremendous skills. Being a "this week's trendy star/starlet" doesn't have a hell of a lot to do with how effective the individual will be at playing a particular role, now, does it?

I see this sort of thread... the ones where, without any actual INFORMATION, we see "doom and gloom" predictions... not a "what if" with even a hint of positivity, but a pure "prediction of failure" (long before we have any information that could POSSIBLY support such a conclusion)... I see this sort of thread as being just, well, DUMB.

This is not to say that the film is going to be good. As far as any of us know, it could reek to high heaven. It could be the worst piece of tripe to hit the screen since... well, pick your personal choice for "worst movie ever."

The thing is, we DO NOT KNOW if it's going to be good or not. We only know a few things, really. One of those things is that we know some of the actors and actresses in the film.

Concluding that this will make for a "rotten" film is just plain dumb. Seriously... how many of you, today, rave about what a fantastic actor Patrick Stewart is? And, prior to ST-TNG, when his most famous role was a bit part in the crappy theatrical version of Dune, how many of you would have considered him "A-List?" Now, I'm less impressed with Stewart than many of you (a naturally resonant deep voice and a british accent does not translate into "great acting" to me... and his actual ACTING strikes me, personally, as fairly middle-of-the-road).

My point is not that "nobody can express concerns." But there are too many people expression concerns about things that are, at best, silly and unfounded and at worst, moot anyway.

Keep an open mind. Decide if it's great or if it sucks based upon the ACTUAL MOVIE... not based upon some year-in-advance personal, internal fantasy life.

 

[CaptainJon]

I agree with Cary L. Brown completely. Just because these aren't big name actors doesn't mean this film is going to bomb. There are plenty of movies with little known actors that go a long way in the box office and with critics. Look at some of this year's biggest comedy hits, like Knocked Up and Superbad. Before either of these movies, actors like Michael Cera or Seth Rogen were relative unknowns. Hell, Rogen still doesn't have a profile pic at imdb.com yet!

Yet despite their relative "unknown actor" status (the most recognizable face in Knocked Up was Katherine Heigl) these two movies were praised by critics and scored at the box office! If JJ's film can do the same, get enough media hype and excitement in the general public and score with critics, this movie can be a whopping success!

I think everyone's biggest worry is that this is the first movie in the history of the franchise to carry an all-new cast, with the exception of Mr. Nimoy -- who, BTW, has been praising the movie to high Heaven. There would be a lot of this anxiety about the movie even if these people were cast in completely original roles. There's an added level of anxiety because we have all new actors playing characters we have known for 42 years (by the time the movie comes out).

I think that's everyone's biggest insecurity: for the first time we're going to see a Star Trek movie with actors who we have never seen in a Trek production before, and it scares us. We're used to going to the movie to see "old friends". It's a security blanket. And in a way, it's kinda ironic because so many fans criticize TPTB for not taking chances or sticking to the status quo, and yet when TPTB take a gamble and try to give us something different, we're the ones who are insecure and want something we're familiar with.

I mean, seriously, how many of us would look at the cast listing to see names like Patrick Stewart, Avery Brooks, Jonathan Frakes, Brent Spiner, etc... and feel more comfortable and secure? I think a great many of us would. Instead we have a list with names like Chris Pine, Zachary Quinto, Simon Pegg, Bruce Greenwood and more. And frankly, I think it scares the crap out of many of us.

I'm nervous. I love Trek. I've grown up with it. And maybe I'd feel a little bit more secure in going to theater next Christmas knowing that I'm going to see an "old friend" on the big screen because it's what I'm used to. And yet, I'm excited because this is something new, it's something different, and it's an attempt to give me something fresh and new. If the movie bombs, it bombs. If it sucks, it sucks. But if it's awesome, it's awesome. And if it's awesome but bombs, it's because we the fans weren't willing to give something new a chance. This could be Trek's biggest critical and financial success. It might not. Let's let history decide.

I, for one, can't wait for next Christmas.

 

[Aragorn]

The OP just seems like someone whose grapes are forever sour.

 

[Kieran]

Yukon Cornelius said:
The OP just seems like someone whose grapes are forever sour.

LMAO...

Look, this film better succeed or the franchise might well be doomed.

Based on what I read on the internet movie database, this film looks like a mish-mash rehash of storylines that have been done ad nauseum.

 

[Jack Bauer]

Kieran said:
Based on what I read on the internet movie database, this film looks like a mish-mash rehash of storylines that have been done ad nauseum.

Well, it looks like this is where you went wrong.