Well that's not a happy story. They paid money to go see the Titanic and now they are in strife. I think 40 hours of air left as of today and no updates yet on the rescue effort.
Also here
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65953872
Tourist submarine goes missing
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Well that's not a happy story. They paid money to go see the Titanic and now they are in strife. I think 40 hours of air left as of today and no updates yet on the rescue effort.
Also here
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65953872
I am sure i remember a few years ago a few people who once worked for thos outfit but left, were stating that this was was a disaster waiting to happen due to the fact the guy running it, was running it in a slapdash manner when it came to health and safety.
Apparently someone at the company brought some concerns up and was fired for it. That was after the sub had already had repairs due to a previous incident, and the company has already faced a lawsuit in the past regarding that very same sub in regards to depths it could safely travel to. So, company very likely knew there could be trouble and didn't mention it to their 'travelers' and made them sign a waiver absolving them of any problems. Smells very fishy, and I wonder if in this case the waiver would even be legally binding.
From what I've seen so far that sub is extremely below average when it comes to its construction and safety systems..
The sub they used a lot to dive to Titanic was this one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nautile
https://www.flotteoceanographique.f...ments/Deep-water-submersible-vehicles/Nautile
This is so much on another level, I'd have no problems going on board Nautile..
The sub they used a lot to dive to Titanic was this one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nautile
https://www.flotteoceanographique.f...ments/Deep-water-submersible-vehicles/Nautile
This is so much on another level, I'd have no problems going on board Nautile..
Being that the family members of the passengers/crew would likely be filing wrongful death suits (sorry but there's no chance of them being rescued alive) and the numerous safety problems that were never addressed are already in the public records, I don't see any court holding those waivers as binding.
You cannot waive away gross negligence.
The submarine is driven by a game controller. You can't make this stuff up. Oh boy!!!
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/titanic-submarine-missing-video-game-xbox-controller-is-that-normal/
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/titanic-submarine-missing-video-game-xbox-controller-is-that-normal/
Pretty much my thoughts. This company has some major hubris, and it's rather disturbing to see them play it so loose with human lives. I really hope this company gets barred from doing anything like this again. It gets worse when you realize the sub they used wasn't even rated for those depths, and they wouldn't wait for authorization.
As for the game controller, as the Washington Post points out, using game controllers to control subs is normal. It's just not typical to use a battery operated bluetooth controller instead of a wired one, for obvious reasons.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/arts-entertainment/2023/06/20/video-game-controller-titanic-sub/
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I'm someone who would buy a flight on Blue Origin or Virgin Galactic if I had the disposable income. But nothing in the world or off it could get me into a tourist can 12000 feet down in the ocean. I feel terrible for those people and anyone else that's ended their life like that. I suppose though if the submarine is never found, and realistically, it may not be, there won't be enough information to really base a lawsuit on one way or another, unless there's a lot of evidence that it simply was not up to the task before it left port.
Even worse if they do find the wreckage and it has had some kind of catastrophic failure event
I wonder if anyone would even bother. If it's on the surface, it's a tomb, and the cost of raising it would be unthinkable, if it was even doable.
That's a good point but the families involved will want closure of some kind
All Crew on board submersible now believe to have died, OceanGate says.https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-us-canada-65967464 
I doubt they suffered. The whole thing probably happened so fast that they never even knew what happened.
^That's what I've been told in the past. Provided there is sufficient oxygen, sudden implosion at depth is like being inside a cylinder during the compression phase of a diesel engine.
Which would be very, very quick and painless. You'd be gone before it happens
Oceangate should be sued to the end of time.. That submarine was so dodgy
Even faster, actually, depend on the depth that it happened. If it was at a similar depth as the USS Thresher and USS Scorpion implosions, it’s quicker than the reaction time of your brain/nervous system to the err, ‘stimuli’.
RIP to all with the exception of the CEO/Owner who was onboard - he deserves a slow roasting over an open fire after his comments about ‘safety being a waste of money’.
Cheers,
-CM-
P/S Edit to Add — The USCG Rear Admiral in charge of the SAR and now, Recovery Mission… is my classmate. Small world, indeed.
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The more I learn about the construction of this vessel and the lack of certification, the more I'm flabbergasted that anyone thought it safe. I suspect the company might be financially liable due to gross negligence, despite whatever waivers the passengers signed. There seems to be a large degree of greed and hubris involved. I hope there is some sort of public enquiry and report.
Same and the sheer lies, they claimed that they consulted NASA, Boeing, and the University of Washington in the design of the submarine..... just wow such blatant lying
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