TOS is actally more advanced looking than DISC

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Discovery' started by KAPLINGON, Jan 22, 2018.

  1. KAPLINGON

    KAPLINGON Ensign Red Shirt

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    I know this sounds insane but bear with me- STAR TREK, The Original Series is actually more advanced looking than Discovery. I don't know what the future will actually look like, but both seriesis are as good a guess as any. Still, visually and technology wise, aside from the obvious 50 year quality gap, I would say that TOS actually looks more futuristic in the Star Trek Universe than Discovery- here's why!
    - Obviously, Discovery is the more recent series, and that means it looks more modern to our eyes. But someday, it too will be dated like TOS. But since TOS is so old, it looks more alien to our eyes, wheras Discovery, with it's holographic interfaces and very modern computer code, looks like something that could actually exist within the next few years. But just because something is shinier doesn't mean it's better, and the TOS look is often more practical for deep space exploration. Just like how cars dont have fins anymore and computers don't have all the pretty flashing lights... Oh wait, TOS does have those, but it's a metaphor.
    -The reason Discovery is so dark is because we are seeing it through the eyes of an external observer (Lorca) with damaged eyes, but I prefer to think that the future will be bright. The darkness automatically makes it seem more dingy and old. On the whole, Discovery has an odd visual style though, and in some ways it's actually more colorful than TOS. This is just a style difference though, just like TOS was remastered to look more modern with CGI and stuff, DISC could be demastered to look like TOS, but this of course is stupid, Roddenberry's vision as expressed in the TMP novelization said as much, that TOS was one interpretation of the real adventures. I think "REAL" Star Trek looks like neither TOS nor DISC, but that's beside the point. Ignoring Roddenberry's Vision, TOS is the ONE TRUE CANNON or at least is just as cannon as DSC. But both visual styles can be retconned, we know from modern media that stuff gets less colorful as it ages- notice how in TOS space is plain black with colored lights for stars whereas in Discovery space is colory with lights and nebulas? Obviously the destruction of the mycelial network (As shown in the very first GOLD KEY COMIC from the 1960s, the first "NON CANNON" story in Star Trek EVER! I think that if DISC and TOS are cannon, so is Gold Key, but that's another matter! ) inverted the universes colors, so that can be explained like that.
    -The Warp Effect on Discovery is more modern and flashy than the one in TOS (Which was literally just stars flying past), but the one in TOS actually looks more advanced, while the lots of lines distorting in DISC is more unstable looking, implying less well developed technology (TIME WARP FACTORS?)
    -As for the viewports/viewscreens thing, TVs are more advanced than WINDOWS! But that doesn't mean we got rid of windows, the Enterprise had a giant dome on top of the bridge even bigger than the Shenzhou's and Discovery's combined! We just only saw it in "The Cage", which incidentally, is set in the same time as Discovery! Coincidence? I think not!
    -I said earlier that computers dont have flashy lights anymore, but the one's in TOS indicate something different, like a universal language comprehensible to all species, not just humans like the one's on Discovery.
    -Also speaking of computers, we can't get around that the computer in TOS sounds more robotic than the one in DISC- but maybe by TOS's time humanity doesn't need all it's computers to sound like them, and is more accepting of computer voices.
    -Then there's the lack of Force Fields in TOS- well better safe than sorry! Especially after what happened to Michael in "Battle at the Binary Stars".
    -The Enterprise is smaller and smoother than ship's on Discovery, but smaller and smoother usually indicates more advanced technology. Either that or a "Starship Augment Virus" affected all starships just like it affected the Klingons over the next ten years.
    - And the Enterprise sure doesn't need a spore drive when it can get from one end of the galaxy to the other! And even to other galaxies as we see in the Gold Key comics, where the Enterprise travels to planet K.G in Galaxy Alpha and destroys the plant planet where the spores originated and destroys it with "Laser Beams"!
    Anyway, that's it for now, feel free to add your own observations or opinions, and if you disagree that's fine, this just helps me feel more comfortable with DISC and STAR TREK on the whole because they are both awesome shows but not the awesomest shows just really cool.

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  2. Tuskin38

    Tuskin38 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    You need to work on your spacing between paragraphs.

    Also the Discovery was launched after the USS Enterprise, making it the newer vessel.

    Unless you're implying there is a refit sometime in the next 10 years to where we see Kirk?
     
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  3. KAPLINGON

    KAPLINGON Ensign Red Shirt

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    Sorry, I had written this elsewhere as a list with spaces between the bulletpoints, but when I copied and pasted it in the formatting came out wrong.

    There doesn't seem to be an edit button so I'll try to just do better next time!

    Very good point about the Enterprise, yes, I was implying the ship was altered (either by refit or space Augment Virus :)) between the Pike and Kirk eras, which probably resulted in the removal of "The Cage" dome.
     
  4. Mirror Mirror

    Mirror Mirror Commodore Commodore

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    Bwahahahahahahahahahaha......no
     
  5. Cyrus

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    I mentioned this already, but in the ENT IaMD episodes the TOS ship looked much more advance that the ENT one, especially the exteriors. I suspect it will be the same when it finally shows up on Discovery.
     
  6. Mirror Mirror

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    Well, its less Advanced than the discovery and it will be redesigned.
     
  7. Refuge

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    I think the 'edit' button will eventually show itself when you've posted enough and been here for a while.

    I could see where you put dashes ;)
     
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    alex08060 Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    No way, 60s props vs 2017 ??????
     
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    TL;DR
     
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  11. Cyrus

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    A lot can happen in 3 years ;)
     
  12. dahj

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    TOS is obviously more advanced.

    1.) controls simplified into useful buttons rather than arm-flailing at virtual displays
    2.) hardcopy is always better than flimsy holograms
    3.) smaller image area is more efficient to focus on the message rather than a large distracting moving image
    4.) more sleek and streamlined look signifies an improvement in materials and build quality

    :techman:
     
  13. Refuge

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    When you see like that it is impossible to ignore.
     
  14. KAPLINGON

    KAPLINGON Ensign Red Shirt

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    Great image!
    Though "The Cage" takes place before Discovery, so it can look less advanced.
     
  15. bigglesworth

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    I still don't think that any of the DIS ships look more advanced than TOS. More detailed, sure, but advanced, I'm not seeing it. That being said, the bridge and the various stations and monitors on DIS look way more advanced than even TNG. But as others have stated, the cheap sets, shiny colored buttons and 6" CRT displays don't work very well for a 21st audience with smart phones, 60" LED screens and all the other technology in our homes.

    The only complaint I could make against Discovery's look and feel is the uniforms. While they look great, they don't jive with what we the audience have seen. Obviously the colored shirts and black pants seen in the Cage and throughout TOS are Starfleet standard uniforms. We saw them used for SF personnel on Connies and starbases. Why would SF go from the dull Cage uniforms, to the crisp DIS uniforms, back to the dull Cage/TOS uniforms in the span of 10 years.
     
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    Last week I was watching a program that mentioned how Discovery will evolve so that by the end of the series (if it lasts that long) it will appear smilar to how TOS appeared. Now I can remember reading a comment about this on another thread on this board so when I heard it it made me pay attention. Sadly it seemed to have been said in passing.
     
  17. Mirror Mirror

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    This means TOS colors, its not gonna change to look cheaper
     
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  18. Hythlodeus

    Hythlodeus Commodore Commodore

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    why would we go from huge, unhandy cellphones to tiny ones back to the huge ones we have today in the span of 10 years?
     
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    I don't wanna be a poopooer but I find this laughable.
     
  20. Mirror Mirror

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    Porn
     
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