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TNG changed the Timeline.

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Mostly starting this thread as a response to people constantly making claim that Strange New Worlds is in an alternate timeline because of how the Eugenics Wars were delayed until to 21st century, as mentioned in Tomorrow and Tomorrow and Tomorrow.

How quickly people seem to have forgotten that TNG moved the date of the Eugenics Wars, long before SNW ever existed.

From the very first time we hear about the Eugenics Wars in Space Seed, we are told it was the last of our World Wars.

Eugenics War = World War III

Flash foward to TNG and we have Encounter at Farpoint showing us the post atomic horror of World War III in the late 21st century. Further cemented by both First Contact and Enterprise going into further detail the events of a mid 21st century World War III.

SNW has simply built off what was established in TNG while giving a little nod to the fact TOS had the event taking place in the 90's.

The fact that we only have 2 specific references to a 90's WWIII with Space Seed and Wrath of Khan, as opposed to the many many more references to it being a mid 21st century conflict, has me choosing to believe the latter and simply view the former as being "just one of those things" from the early days of Trek that do not line up with the rest of the franchise.

Was there fury over this back in the 80's? I'm too young to remember, but it does confuse me how SNW seems to catch such flack for something that TNG started almost 40 years ago.

Thoughts?
 
The fact that we only have 2 specific references to a 90's WWIII with Space Seed and Wrath of Khan, as opposed to the many many more references to it being a mid 21st century conflict, has me choosing to believe the latter and simply view the former as being "just one of those things" from the early days of Trek that do not line up with the rest of the franchise.

I take specific dates more seriously than loose dates. With Khan, in both appearances we get the 1996 date.

But then, I treat it as a multiverse. They happened in 1992 and 2092, it is all good.
 
Mostly starting this thread as a response to people constantly making claim that Strange New Worlds is in an alternate timeline because of how the Eugenics Wars were delayed until to 21st century, as mentioned in Tomorrow and Tomorrow and Tomorrow.

How quickly people seem to have forgotten that TNG moved the date of the Eugenics Wars, long before SNW ever existed.

From the very first time we hear about the Eugenics Wars in Space Seed, we are told it was the last of our World Wars.

Eugenics War = World War III

Flash foward to TNG and we have Encounter at Farpoint showing us the post atomic horror of World War III in the late 21st century. Further cemented by both First Contact and Enterprise going into further detail the events of a mid 21st century World War III.

SNW has simply built off what was established in TNG while giving a little nod to the fact TOS had the event taking place in the 90's.

The fact that we only have 2 specific references to a 90's WWIII with Space Seed and Wrath of Khan, as opposed to the many many more references to it being a mid 21st century conflict, has me choosing to believe the latter and simply view the former as being "just one of those things" from the early days of Trek that do not line up with the rest of the franchise.

Was there fury over this back in the 80's? I'm too young to remember, but it does confuse me how SNW seems to catch such flack for something that TNG started almost 40 years ago.

Thoughts?

IIRC it was Data that uttered the year in that courtroom. Maybe Data was having a glitch that made him say wrong years, like he did with his graduating year while talking to Bones. :shrug:
 
IIRC it was Data that uttered the year in that courtroom. Maybe Data was having a glitch that made him say wrong years, like he did with his graduating year while talking to Bones. :shrug:


Okay, but explain First Contact, Enterprise, Discovery, and Strange New Worlds, all following the example put up by TNG?
 
Still think TNG after "Yesterday's Enterprise" is either set in another timeline than the one before the episode or Tasha going back in time caused some bigger changes.

Like the Klingons only being allies to the Federation instead of members and the border wars with the Cardassians, instead of the era of peace mentioned before in TNG.
 
Still think TNG after "Yesterday's Enterprise" is either set in another timeline than the one before the episode or Tasha going back in time caused some bigger changes.

Like the Klingons only being allies to the Federation instead of members and the border wars with the Cardassians, instead of the era of peace mentioned before in TNG.
Why?
 
That doesn't explain a changed timeline.

That just is different terminology.

Think a Starfleet member from the future, like Tasha being captured and interrogated by the Romulans could have changed their actions big way and caused a lot of changes in galactic politics, probably resulting in the things I mentioned.
 
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