Time Travel in the new Trek movie I've been hearing about

[T'Cal]

I've always liked the time travel Trek episodes and movies, such as CotEoF, STIV, Yesterday's Enterprise, Time's Arrow, AGT, and FC. I especially liked how YE had consequences that weren't readily apparent but showed up later (Sela). I don't know if there will be any consequences to the time travel in STXI but that would certainly make sequels interesting. Perhaps in STXII they would have to correct whatever damage they've done.

 

[Garak]

USS Excelsior said:
Worked well in First Contact, and Yesterday's Enterprise where history was changed but changed back again.

This is true. But for every 2 great time travel episode there are 2,984 horrible ones. I don't do the math, I just report it.

Garth Rockett said:


Well, someone's got to do it. Might as well be Spock.

See, I'd prefer a leggy Uhura. This is why Trekkies like us don't get laid, we're always thinking about Spock or Kirk.

Only when I accidentally erase the timeline I just left.

I bet you do it on purpose, just to screw with time.

See previous answer.

Ok.

No.

Direct and to the point, I like it.

Yes.

Dammit. I did a lot of things I'm not proud of for these pants.

No. The very act of travelling through time creates an alternate timeline - one where the traveller travelled in time, and one where they didn't. There are always irreversable consequences to time travel.

Guh?

In at least one timeline, yes.

I wonder if there's a timeline with an all Russian Enterprise. I bet they don't even make it out of our solar system.

They've got to have somebody to make fun of.

Exactly.

No.

How can you not be sick of time travel in Trek? Also, do you think you get motion sickness when you travel through time?

Depends.

We'll all wear them one day.

I hope my answers were helpful. Welcome aboard.

Very helpful. It's great to be here, even if there are some meanies that aren't interested in discussing time travel for the 567th time.

 

[Bill Morris]

It could all be done without time travel. Nimoy plays the real Spock, who comes to Earth, mind-melds with the CEO of Paramount, and tells him that TOS really happened in our 20th century, but THAT Earth was 20 light-years from here, the Enterprise looked a little different, the real J.T. Kirk looked like Chris Pine, and he wants Paramount to set the record straight by making a movie about the Trekiverse he knows.

 

[Garak]

Re: Time Travel in the new Trek movie I've been hearing abou

Arlo said:
wait--is the OP joking? A TrekBBS admin who doesn't know about the new movie? Am I in an alternate universe here?

T'Bonz rarely lets me out of my cage. The other day I had to eat my left earlobe, hadn't been fed in some time.

number6 said:
I don't think there should be any sci-fi plot contrivances whatsoever..

They've all been done way to many times in Modern Trek. TOS never used them.. The writers are all a bunch of hacks if they try to rip off TOS in any way shape or form and they should be strictly true to the modern military and have proper rank and protocol. I will sooooo boycott this film if they don't salute their superiors the right way.

But......but...your $12 is so important!

RoJoHen said:

Arlo said:
^ Perhaps, but this topic has been discussed here ad infinitum. Just seems odd. *shrug*.

I have a feeling that's the point.

You'll come to find that I don't really have a point. It's more of a gently rounded tip.

starburst said:

Garak said:
Why would they even let a Russian on board?

Why wouldnt they, its not like the film is set on an American ship at the height of the cold war

Don't you think that the Russian would steal propulsion and weapon secrets though?

I do.

 

[Nowhere Man]

Garak said:

USS Excelsior said:
Worked well in First Contact, and Yesterday's Enterprise where history was changed but changed back again.

This is true. But for every 2 great time travel episode there are 2,984 horrible ones. I don't do the math, I just report it.you must have carl roves math

Garth Rockett said:


Well, someone's got to do it. Might as well be Spock.

See, I'd prefer a leggy Uhura. This is why Trekkies like us don't get laid, we're always thinking about Spock or Kirk.

Only when I accidentally erase the timeline I just left.

I bet you do it on purpose, just to screw with time.

See previous answer.

Ok.

No.

Direct and to the point, I like it.

Yes.

Dammit. I did a lot of things I'm not proud of for these pants.

No. The very act of travelling through time creates an alternate timeline - one where the traveller travelled in time, and one where they didn't. There are always irreversable consequences to time travel.

Guh?

In at least one timeline, yes.

I wonder if there's a timeline with an all Russian Enterprise. I bet they don't even make it out of our solar system.

They've got to have somebody to make fun of.

Exactly.

No.

How can you not be sick of time travel in Trek? Also, do you think you get motion sickness when you travel through time?

Depends.

We'll all wear them one day.

I hope my answers were helpful. Welcome aboard.

Very helpful. It's great to be here, even if there are some meanies that aren't interested in discussing time travel for the 567th time.

 

[Garak]

klingongoat said:


I found it doesn't help to blame the clothes.

Maybe I could blame Bush?

The amount of fat has a direct bearing on whether the pants can be pulled off without said consequences.

It sounds like you've travelled through time to learn everything you possibly can about looking fat in pants. Respect!

Franklin said:

Garak said:
Please answer my questions, I'm new to this forum and it's strange and unfamiliar.

Newbies! You don't take a couple of minutes to scroll through the list of topics to familiarize yourself with the forum before diving right in and adding what is probably the 159th thread about time travel in the last two months. Quit clogging up the forum with redundant topics! A moderator should act on this. and

I'll just use my Sith Administrator lightning on any mod that intervenes.

Speaking of finger lightning, you guys ever seen Star Wars? It's awesome. Also, no time travel.

LCARS 24 said:
It could all be done without time travel. Nimoy plays the real Spock, who comes to Earth, mind-melds with the CEO of Paramount, and tells him that TOS really happened in our 20th century, but THAT Earth was 20 light-years from here, the Enterprise looked a little different, the real J.T. Kirk looked like Chris Pine, and he wants Paramount to set the record straight by making a movie about the Trekiverse he knows.

I find it disturbing that you think Paramount will exist hundreds of years from now.

 

[Woulfe]

Re: Time Travel in the new Trek movie I've been hearing abou

^ as long as there's money to be made from Star Trek, Paramount will be there, even hundreds of years in the Future, got to sue folks who use Starfleet & whatnot without permission after all.

- W -
* smirking *

 

[Garth Rockett]

Garak said:
I bet you do it on purpose, just to screw with time.

...Maybe...but you can't prove it!

Also, do you think you get motion sickness when you travel through time?

I guess it would depend on the individual, but when navigating the time stream it's always a good idea to bring some Drammamine just in case.

 

[Garak]

Garth Rockett said:

I guess it would depend on the individual, but when navigating the time stream it's always a good idea to bring some Drammamine just in case.

You gotta think someone with the know how to build a time machine would be able to make a pretty awesome barf bag.


Upon further reflection, I'm so sick of people taking the easy way out and going back in time to acheive their malicious goals. Don't be so lazy, know what I mean? Deal with the present and what's in front of you. If you don't like the Federation, for instance, then build a robot army and invade them now. Take the women and children as slaves and kill all the men, gosh. A little elbow grease is always a good thing. Don't be a total wuss and go back in time and sneak around like a communist.

Who's with me?

 

[archeryguy1701]

Garak said:

Garth Rockett said:

I guess it would depend on the individual, but when navigating the time stream it's always a good idea to bring some Drammamine just in case.

You gotta think someone with the know how to build a time machine would be able to make a pretty awesome barf bag.


Upon further reflection, I'm so sick of people taking the easy way out and going back in time to acheive their goals. Don't be so lazy, know what I mean? Deal with the present and what's in front of you. If you don't like the Federation, for instance, then build a robot army and invade them now. Take the women and children as slaves and kill all the men, gosh. A little elbow grease is always a good thing. Don't be a total wuss and go back in time and sneak around like a communist.

Who's with me?

Geez, who's more responsible for the decline in society nowadays? Is it the young, time-traveling wipper-snappers who lack ambition? Or is it old farts like you who lack the creativity and dramatic flare to go about their goals in a non-traditional manner? Just for your silliness, I'm going back in time and making sure that Tom Cruise stays a nobody!

 

[Garak]

archeryguy1701 said:
Geez, who's more responsible for the decline in society nowadays? Is it the young, time-traveling wipper-snappers who lack ambition?

YES! Always on my lawn, listening to their rap music.

Or is it old farts like you who lack the creativity and dramatic flare to go about their goals in a non-traditional manner?

First time I've evar been called an old fart. I'll have you know I get my girlfriend to pluck out my grey hair, so I can walk amongst you young punks unnoticed.

Just for your silliness, I'm going back in time and making sure that Tom Cruise stays a nobody!

Dude. You do not want to get in to a time travelling war with Tom Cruise. He's well skilled in the arts of time travelling, plus he's fucking crazy.

 

[archeryguy1701]

Garak said:
YES! Always on my lawn, listening to their rap music.

Hey, a little Cowboy Troy is good for the soul. We're just trying to help you.

First time I've evar been called an old fart. I'll have you know I get my girlfriend to pluck out my grey hair, so I can walk amongst you young punks unnoticed.

You're fooling no one. The moment you propose using an army of robots to accomplish something, your secret will be out. You can only sneak amongst us for so long...

Dude. You do not want to get in to a time travelling war with Tom Cruise. He's well skilled in the arts of time travelling, plus he's fucking crazy.

He may be skilled in time travel, but is he a master of warfare? Lets see...
Minority Report: He brought down the corrupt police force... oh, wait. The police force beat him. He needed to get his ex to do the heavy lifting and save his butt.
War of the Worlds: He beat the crap out of the Martians! Actually, come to think of it, he had nothing to do with that; it was all germs. Hell, he had an aweful time winning the War of the Wills against those monsters he called children.
The Last Samari: He helped the Samari beat the modern warriors, right? Nope. When the smoke cleared, he was the only surviving Samari, and that's only because the soldiers got a concious about killing wounded, defenseless enemies.

So, Tom may chase me through time, but what's he gonna do? Convert my great grandparents to Scientologists? Start another battle he can't win? Yeah, he's fucking crazy!

 

[Therin of Andor]

Re: Time Travel in the new Trek movie I've been hearing abou

I told you before. Tom went back in time and cast himself as the star of the original "Star Trek", but now it's called "Star Cruise". And that's also why Shatner can't be in ST XI.

 

[Dale]

Re: Time Travel in the new Trek movie I've been hearing abou

When they said the new movie would include time travel, they were talking about the release date.