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Thundercats (ep1*6) *SPOILERS*

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Tonight's Episode: Lion-O and the Last Crusade

The Good:
-There is an oft-told tale that Comic legend, Wally Wood drew Power Girl's boobs larger every issue to see if any of the higher-ups would stop him. Mr. Wood's spirit lives in Studio 4°C.
-Mumm-Ra's Dramatic-Entrancemobile
-Some good action, I liked cheetara's run up the tower sides.


The Bad:
-So Jaga could have blown up anytime he wanted, but still led Mumm-Ra to the Tower?
-Also, he knew where it was, but nonetheless allowed Grune and Panthro to very likely die looking for it.
-So the water trap escape at the bottom opens above the trap?
-Mumm-Ra's Breath of Shoving. Bring a nine millimeter next time.
-The Flashback: Is there no end to Thundarrian Evil?

The Ugly:
-I just played the God of War Collection a few weeks ago, so there was no way I was going to be impressed by these pre-Tomb Raider traps. No blocks, at least,
-So are the ancient spirits of evil just a bunch of mechanics or engineers?
-Too many fundamental questions unanswered. What are these creatures doing? I am not even sure of the basic situation. The 'Bad' guy wants a rock. The 'Good' (*snicker*) guys want a book. Are the thundarians dead? enslaved? on trial for their crimes? Why exactly should I care which monster rules?
 
I will admit I am liking this show still... quite a bit, actually... but the thing about Jaga knowing the location of the Book of Omens was a massive plot hole. The other stuff I can mostly disregard, for now. Give me a few weeks and if there are no good answers I may change my tune. As for the Thundarians... I thought it was implied they were all dead. at least, that's how I've been progressing. and I actually love the idea that Mumm-ra used to be the lord or emperor or whatever of the Thundercats.
 
Sadly, this show looks great, but the writing is atrocious.

The plots make little to no sense whatsoever, and nothing is explained with any degree of satisfaction.

What happened to the Thundercat People?

Are they all dead?

If not, did the new king just run away from them to find a mystic book that has strange yet ill defined purpose?

If the Thundercats thought technology to be myth, where does Panthro gain mechanical engineering as a skillset? Not to mention a Thundertank?

This show could of used a Series Bible and a Showrunner with a sense of story plotting aka Greg Wiesman. As it stands, it's pretty, but awful in almost all other respects.
 
Yeah I have to agree the storyline isn't making a whole lot of sense right now-- at least compared to something like the He-Man reboot, where everything seemed much more consistent and well thought out.

It's still fairly fun to watch on a surface level, as just an adventure show, but that's about it.
 
Yeah. I wasn't especially looking forward to this series, but I thought it might be something akin to the He-Man Reboot and therefore had it in the back of my mind to look out for.

Swing and a miss.
 
I love how Lion-O just left Panthro to die without even trying to save him. This show is so entertaining for all the wrong reasons.

Lion-O: I'll save you Panthro!
*Lion-O swims for about five seconds and then gives up*
Lion-O: Well, he's dead. Let's go guys.
 
Honestly, I didn't even think of the plot holes mentioned above when I was watching it. Jaga not sacrificing himself earlier? Made sense since it seemed to be a last minute, desperation gamble. Lion-O running out of air? His lung capacity wasn't super great or whatever. Nothing earth-shattering IMO. I enjoyed this ep (but nowhere near as much as the Plant People episode).
 
I really enjoyed this episode, although I will admit when it comes to shows like this, I pretty much just sit and enjoy the pretty pictures. I hadn't really thought to much about what was going on arc wise, but now that you guys have mentioned them, you do have some very good points.
 
The Fatman said:
and I actually love the idea that Mumm-ra used to be the lord or emperor or whatever of the Thundercats.
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I think the implication is that Mumm-Ra was "the lord or emperor or whatever" of everything back in the day, so he'd probably subjugated all the creatures on Thundarra, not just the cats.
 
^Yeah...

I'd say that I hope to see that backstory expanded upon, but I'm going to hold my breath with this series.
 
Good episode. I like episodes where everyone gets something to do. We finally see Mummra's other form. I just wished they just didn't stumble onto the temple by sheer luck. I'm glad they found the Book of Omens. Not surprised that's it's blank. I didn't want the entire series or season is all about travelling everywhere, looking for the MacGuffin book.

The flashback raises more questions than answers. Mummra was in charge of the cats and possibly other races. It appears they had technology too. Why did they claim it to be a myth to their children? Who had the magic rock originally? Also, if Jaga knew where the Book of Omens located, why did Claudus sent Panthro and Grune? Perhaps Claudus was unaware of this fact. Cheetara is the only one in that main cast that said Jaga knew, and also the only cleric. Me thinks that Jaga or the other clerics all claim nobody knew expect the ones that already died.
 
I liked this episode too, for most of the above reasons.

More nostalgia goodness: the Tower of Omens' design. (Do an image search on "Tower of Omens".)
 
Showdown said:
It appears they had technology too. Why did they claim it to be a myth to their children?
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The Thundercats became Amish?

Seriously though, maybe after Mumm-Ra was defeated and imprisoned, the Cats decided to abandon technology, fearing it may be misused again. From the pilot episode, they seemed to be an isolationist society who had little contact with the world outside their walls.
 
Agreed there. It was annoying at first when it seemed that EVERYONE outside of Thundera had hi-tech stuff, but then we thought back and it seemed that none of the Thunder-folk seemed to like, want or need to leave their walled kingdom. Anyone see Escaflowne? Same thing - the Fanelians were an agrarian society that was technologically behind everyone else, and they didn't care.

Also, it seems like tech as a whole is limited to weapons and transportation - we dont' see anyone with iPhones or even radios. IMO we're looking at a world where most tech HAS vanished, and what's left seems to be what has survived from a more advanced age. As for the Thundertank, I'm guessing due to its similarities to Mumm-ra's Facemobile it's something that he hijacked on his way out of the temple, learing how it's driven and fueled by poking around with it afterwards.

Incidentally, *loved* the sammo-flange in-joke last week. :) :)

I'm liking this. They were meandering a bit with the story, but they had always been in search of hte Book of Omens so it's not unlike plenty of stories where they meet and solve problems along the way. The mayfly-pant people episode was something I found refreshingly original for this sort of medium, contrived plotting and all.

Mark
 
Technobuilder said:
^Yeah...

I'd say that I hope to see that backstory expanded upon, but I'm going to hold my breath with this series.
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So... I say this just last week and then BOOM! (like clockwork) the very next episode is the "Flashback to Fill-In Backstory" episode... And it wasn't terrible...

Of course, now I'm wondering who the original inhabitants of "Third Earth" were and what happened to their technological wonder cities (and them as well).
 
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