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This is Interment Camp 3-7-1.......

But a space manta ray thing presumably has some kind of complex and yet replicable biological/organic function that allows it to travel at warp.

Founders have turned into inorganic objects such as chairs, and tables, from time to time. I guess the question would be could a Founder turn into a complex inorganic object such as a starship? Could a Founder generate forcefields and matter and antimatter? Could a Founder generate a warp field without killing itself?

Based on VGR's 'Course: Oblivion' I'm inclined to say no.
 
^I'd suspect so, but it might be an effort and require more than one consciousness.

And Laas definitely was generating a warp field when he found Odo.
 
^ Cloaking devices hide things by becoming invisible to the eye and sensors, Founders can do that by becoming objects, which hides in much the same way. So one minute space manta, next minute pocket of space gas.

If a Founder became a Jem'Hadar, could he then shroud? Or if it became Betazoid, would it be telepathic? While Laas was a manta and travelling at warp did he produce the warp field himself if the manta can or does the manta travel at warp in a way that isn't dissimilar to how Bajoran solar sails could travel at warp without a warp drive or the means to produce let alone maintain a warp fields.
 
Might as well ask "If a Founder is a human, does he synthesize ATP"?:p I've always assumed they were telepathic by nature anyway, in order to explain their ability to masquerade as humanoids not only physically but socially.
 
Nah, we have trained spies and actors who can do the same thing. The Founders are just actors on a galactic scale. And plus they don't all have to learn it either: one of them does and then when it rejoins the Great Link it's experiences are infused into all of them.
 
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Are you saying Laas is equal to Chuck Norris?

Not quite, b/c......................


  • When Chuck Norris looks in the mirror nothing appears. There can never be a second Chuck Norris.
  • When there's a fire, you stop, drop, and roll. When there's a Chuck Norris, you stop, drop, and die.
  • We don't know if Chuck Norris enjoys a good fight. He's never had one.
  • Chuck Norris bites the hand that feeds him�and eats their entrails.
  • An apple a day keeps the doctor away. A Chuck Norris a day kills.
  • Chuck Norris can unscramble an egg.
  • When Chuck Norris wants popcorn, he breathes on Nebraska.
  • Chuck Norris has a vacation home on the sun.
  • Chuck Norris uses red hot lava to moisturize his skin.
  • Chuck Norris invented the apple
 
Are you saying Laas is equal to Chuck Norris?

Not quite, b/c......................


  • When Chuck Norris looks in the mirror nothing appears. There can never be a second Chuck Norris.
  • When there's a fire, you stop, drop, and roll. When there's a Chuck Norris, you stop, drop, and die.
  • We don't know if Chuck Norris enjoys a good fight. He's never had one.
  • Chuck Norris bites the hand that feeds him�and eats their entrails.
  • An apple a day keeps the doctor away. A Chuck Norris a day kills.
  • Chuck Norris can unscramble an egg.
  • When Chuck Norris wants popcorn, he breathes on Nebraska.
  • Chuck Norris has a vacation home on the sun.
  • Chuck Norris uses red hot lava to moisturize his skin.
  • Chuck Norris invented the apple

And yet Captain Robau could still kick his cowboy ass.
 
Or then the original Bashir, Martok, Worf and Garak were all killed, and the runabout was used for deploying the Founder impostors.

I mean, look at the outcome. The "Martok" that was released refused to shoot at any Dominion vessels for the longest time, and acted with great cowardice even afterwards, ultimately trying to defy the great war leader Gowron at his greatest moment of triumph. As if that hadn't been enough, "Worf", after having fouled up an important covert operation, went on to assassinate said great leader!

"Garak" went on a murderous rampage against key DS9 personnel, then feigned mental problems when tasked with deciphering Dominion communications. And "Bashir"... Oh, yes, "Bashir". Having been replaced by a Founder once already, he still was trusted enough that his subversive attempt at making the Alpha alliance surrender altogether was almost successful. His campaign at messing with the Sisko's brain and keeping him off kilter with hallucinations about Benny Russell was subtle and clever, if more limited in scope. But his greatest success in high treason of course came when he defeated Starfleet's plans of bioattack against the Founders.

Timo Saloniemi

Oh my god! It's all so clear now.

Aaron McGuire
 
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