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think the trek culture can ever come true?

Toban Kal

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From the basics of trek culture; living in a world where material gain is no longer the driving force of humanity. To deep space exploration and meeting alien races.
I'm just not sure. at the very least I don't it will come true by the 24th century, or the 23rd,or even the 22nd.
Science has promised all kinds of things. they say replicators could be possible in the next century and warp drive is scientifically possible in the next thousand years.
I'm still just not sure that anything like the society that has evolved in the star trek universe could ever come to pass. there will be something that will evolve but i'm also sure there will be someone to spoil it and stop it from becoming anything like the society of the federation.
Trek shows us what we can be, but do you think it's what we ever will be?
 
the majority of trek's utopian society revolves around how easy things are to get, based on a society that is mastering matter manipulation, not just learning it but mastering it.

I do not see that level of mastery over matter being conducted by humanity within the next 300 years.
 
I don't think it'll ever happen. It hasn't actually even happened in the Trekverse. There are still people there who are greedy, selfish, cruel, ambitious, etc.

Good thing, too. Trek would be terminally dull if it actually was "Shangri-la."
 
We have Obama, so I expect flying cars in 2 years and transporters and replicators in 4 years.
 
No. Artificial intelligence and genetic engineering, practically verboten technologies in Star Trek, will be established far sooner than replicators, transporters, or faster-than-light starships (or slower-than-light starships, or even a permanent human presence in space). M-5s and Augments will be plentiful, and humans will persist as dwindling species overseeing its own orderly extinction.

Eventually, slower-than-light space colonization will occur, but not for a while, barring some bizarre change in Earthling priorities.
 
From the basics of trek culture; living in a world where material gain is no longer the driving force of humanity. To deep space exploration and meeting alien races.
I'm just not sure. at the very least I don't it will come true by the 24th century, or the 23rd,or even the 22nd.
Science has promised all kinds of things. they say replicators could be possible in the next century and warp drive is scientifically possible in the next thousand years.
I'm still just not sure that anything like the society that has evolved in the star trek universe could ever come to pass. there will be something that will evolve but i'm also sure there will be someone to spoil it and stop it from becoming anything like the society of the federation.
Trek shows us what we can be, but do you think it's what we ever will be?

"Hell no", with a side order of "Are you high?"
 
Certainly not the rosy aspects of Trek. But things like Eugenics wars, ongoing bigotry, etc., etc., those darker aspects of Trek, yes.
Some technological improvements resembling Trek, too. It even has already happened. (Flip-open-and-shut TOS communicators and cell phones. Some detection devices too, probably.)
 
I could swear I remember hearing about someone who had made like, a mini transporter thing, but it only worked over a few feet :V
 
I think we could quite easily get the TOS version of the galaxy... we're some of the more 'material-focused' issues are largely just technologically outmoded. A lot of issues will be muted, or their focuses shift, and we'll still have to WORK to make things happen.

But the TNG version of super-happy-love-everyone-shares-the-exact-same-philosophy-on-life-and-is-always-right-and-always-gets-along ? Not only do I say 'no', but I also say "Dear God, I hope not!"

Come TNG, I was rooting for the Romulans.
 
Trek shows us what we can be...

Can't agree there. Trek shows a future were everybody stopped thinking. I doubt that's going to happen for real. People may not be consciously pulling for each other, but as long as they're trying to get ahead and make the most of what they have, they won't forget to think.
 
I don't know that I accept the premise that a lack of desire to accumulate wealth is actually what Trek is all about. That's been an element, but it's one that contradicts other elements.

I would argue that the real essence of Trek's depiction of Federation culture is egalitarianism, liberal democracy, diversity/multiculturalism, multilateralism, a dedication to use diplomacy whenever possible, and a willingness to use violence only under specific circumstances.

And, yes, I think that all of those things can be achieved in real life. It will not be easy, and it will need to be constantly maintained, but I don't think they're impossible, either.
 
Perhaps I'm being too optimistic here, but I think certain aspects of "Trek cuture" may perhaps exist in our future.

I fully believe that racism will be extinct in the future, I believe that we will all consider ourselves as human beings first before identifying themselves as a "brit" or "american" and so on. The rise of the internet allready makes the world a "global villiage" and people are moving closer together, sometimes getting along and sometimes not, but learning about each other all the time, exchanging different cultural traits and ideas.

Economically, I think change will happen but I think some kind of bartering system will exist to incentiveise people to work. Perhaps not in the way we use money today depending on the technology in use in the future. In DS9 I think they referred to "replicator credits" that are earned and then redemmed to provide people with their everyday needs, so I don't think in the Trek future that people really do work for nothing, despite what picard said in FC.

Ultimately I think there will still be people who are greedy or lust for power and control over others, but I am unsure to the extent that it will exist.
 
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