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  1. Flying Spaghetti Monster

    Flying Spaghetti Monster Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Plagueis and Palpatine's quest for immortality involved using the Force to control time. They discovered time travel was possible by accessing the world between worlds. Palpatine manages to do it, and while traveling 75 years into the future, he senses a being more powerful in the Force than anyone he's ever encountered: Rey. So in TROS, Palpatine appears out of the Force-Time vortex and takes Rey back 75 years into the past... to about 10 years before the events of TPM.

    Rey manages to escape from Palpatine, but knowing Palpatine would surely find her, she cuts herself off from the Force like she saw Luke do on Ahch-To. She takes Luke's last name, and in a twist of irony, she ends up a slave on a desert planet, just how she started out. She accepts that she's stuck there, and the last shot of the saga reveals a pregnant Rey/Shmi looking out at a twin sunset.

    So all the speculation about Palpatine using the Force to create Anakin is true from a certain point of view. He used the Force to bring Anakin's mother from the future.

    Who is the father? I don't know, maybe Ben/Kylo? That's for the audience to decide.
     
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    I doubt Star Wars will ever use time travel.
     
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    Prophecy is time travel.

    Even if you can't direct messages into the past, if you keep talking about the awful shit that is happening to you, it's possible that someone from somewhen will accidentally pick up on your plight, and do something about it.
     
  4. Campe98

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    To be fair, they did use it in the last season of Rebels with the World Between Worlds. But, the likelihood it will be used in TROS is slim to none.
     
  5. Smellmet

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    I can't see this happening. The nearest I see SW films touching on this are force visions from the future/past like Vader torturing Han in ESB.
     
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    And when asked her name, groggy, she replies.. ‘ s’me...Skywalker...’
     
  7. Flying Spaghetti Monster

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    they already used the kind of time travel necessary on Rebels and that is canon
     
  8. Campe98

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    Yes, as I stated three posts above you. Still, doing so would require some major exposition for those not familiar with Rebels, which is a significant part of the audience. I think that makes it highly unlikely. Not impossible. But I'm not holding my breath.
     
  9. Flying Spaghetti Monster

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    just so everyone knows.. I did NOT concoct this theory. In fact the only thing I hope for in the finale at this point is:
    1) the last scene is Lando getting the Falcon and him and Chewie going off into who knows where
    2) I want a good dogfight. Like a good one. Starkiller Base dogfight did not involve me at all, it felt like it had no weight to it
     
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    The last scene will be far bigger that that. Not to say what you want won’t happen in film. But that will not be the last scene. I for one would like to see Chewbacca go back to his family at the end of his story.

    This I do agree with you on. The dogfight didn’t quite work for me in TFA. I did like the one in TLJ once it got going.
     
  11. Smellmet

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    It wouldn't surprise me to see the falcon getting destroyed in this one.

    This I do agree on. The space battles in the ST have been lacklustre thus far to me (especially TFA). Rogue One showed how it's done, now give me an epic space battle that finally tops ROTJ. The technology is there, there's no excuse this time.
     
  12. Flying Spaghetti Monster

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    As much as I've trashed on Disney SW.. I think the dogfight in Rogue One was.. pretty damn awesome. Better than RotJ.. not quite.. but it FELT like a SW battle and worked both in the story and on a visceral level
     
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    I give Rogue One a lot of shit, but it was the first time Star Wars felt like it had a real war in it. Then Vader showed up and the end. SMH.
     
  14. Flying Spaghetti Monster

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    Are you on the side of liking the Vader scene? I get the impression you did not
     
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    It was fantastic, right up there with ROTJ in my view. It just didn't quite have the scope of Jedi but was just as exciting.

    I love Rogue One, and also the Vader scene, I get that it's fanwank, but it's a glorious piece of fanwank, and if I'm honest, you can argue the entire film is.
     
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    Maybe we’ll spend part of the movie on his home world celebrating Life Day! :rofl:
     
  17. Campe98

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    I think Rogue One is a weak film in general. It, to me, feels as though there was a great war film in there that got pushed to the side for some reason or another. There are some weird artifacts from significant rewrites in the film. The dialogue in the scene between Jyn and the rebel leaders feels very off like they reshot part of it, I'm just not sure which part. The story could have visited fewer planets and work better. It felt very rushed in that regard. The fanwank (for the most part) doesn't work for me. The story does not fit well with A New Hope. And the Vader scene at the end is indicative of many of those issues. Saw is fairly pointless in the end. Bodhi Rook is a terrible character. Rogue One, for me, just does not hold together very well. I get that it is well-loved by certain fans and I admit, the last time I watched it (about a month ago), it was better but it still does not hold together for me.

    Epic! Hehehe. :biggrin:
     
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    Agree with most of your points - never noticed anything 'off' in the Jyn/rebel leaders scene to be honest. It hugely entertained me either way, and genuinely transported me back to the world of the original movie, despite the minor errors in continuity with the beginning of ANH (which I can kind of wave away because I love the movie - I'd find it harder to if I didn't). Visually, I think it's the best SW movie of them all, and that space battle has set a bar that I expect TROS to at least meet. With Snoke's ship in pieces I'll be interested to see if Abrams comes up with some sort of super sized weapon/battleship for the focus of the final battle, as surely another Death Star is not on the cards.
     
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    I liked Bhodi Rook as a character. but I guess the Bor Gullet thing just made him a bit out of it for a while. But I liked how he stepped up to the plate on Scarif and was trying his best to make it all work with what skills he had
     
  20. Campe98

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    That's fair. It depressed me to no end. But to each his own! The battle scenes are epic. The feel of being back in the '77 movie is definitely there. But in the end the movie just falls flat for me.

    I really hope there is no Death Star-ish thing in TROS. But I think we're due for another one! SMH. LOL
     
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