The strange lack of auxiliaries in ST empires

[Deimos Anomaly]

Everyone outta the Klingon empire is an actual Klingon.

Everyone from the Romulan empire is a Rpmulan.

Everyone from the Cardassian empire is a Cardassian.

Rinse and repeat for the Breen, whoever.

What gives? Where are the Kings African Rifles, as it were?

Just something I thought was a little odd.

 

[C.E. Evans]

Others probably wonder why they only see Humans when dealing with the Federation.

 

[F. King Daniel]

In the novels, this isn't the case. In TV, it's like that for budgetary/"the viewers are retards who won't comprehend" reasons.

 

[Pauln6]

The Cardassian Union seemed pretty small fry compared to the Federation. I think the Feds problem is their lack of military might rather than territory and membership, although they changed up a gear after the Borg.

The Romulans did have the Remans but I agree, I would have liked to see more subject races. It would also have been nice to see that not every race views the Klingons and Romulans through the same negative prism as the Federation. In B5, the Minbari mention a subject race that we never see as well.

 

[Colonel Midnight]

Wouldn't the Remans from NEM qualify as being "auxiliaries", or with being slaves... just not worth the mustard?

Cheers,
-CM-

 

[Finn]

Well, the shows were focused on the exploits of starfleet crews. They'd have to get out of their way to show a group of aliens and say "They are from the *insert race* Empire". You could say they could have done it once in a while. This is true, but they don't have to. And there is nothing to suggest otherwise. After all, it is a show about mostly Humans and a few aliens among them.

We saw a good number of aliens on DS9 that may have hail from one of UFP's neighbors. Unless someone on one of the shows said there are only one species in all of each of the empires, this issue is moot.

 

[Pauln6]

True but it was something of a missed opportunity. They touched on it when Bajor refused to join the Federation but it would have been fun to see one of the big empires through the eyes of a race that had benefitted from being under the thumb of Romulans or Klingons.

 

[Anwar]

We know there are subjugated worlds in the Romulan and Klingon Empires, and these guys are considered lower subjects of the Empires.

The real reason is because they assumed the audience are morons, and would wonder why there are aliens in the Romulan Empire who aren't Romulans, etc.

This is partially why they didn't go for the original idea of the Dominion, that their armed forced would be more than just the Jem'Hadar (the Trackers from earlier in the series would be Dominion soldiers too).

 

[T'Girl]

Apparently Shinzon worked his way to commander in the Romulan forces, a good one too according to starfleet intelligence.

Not bad for a kid from the mines.

 

[Timo]

It does help with painting the enemy of the week as evil when said enemy behaves just like the (Hollywood) Nazis: lesser races simply aren't allowed to contribute in military matters, not even as cannon fodder, and that's eeeeeevil. Or if lesser races or "native" or "local" players are given some task, then it's a nice sign of the evil enemy betraying even his own evil standards in the depths of his despair.

Of course, if we did see somebody from a Klingon "minority", would we pay attention? For all we know, the wildly varying forehead patterns are telltales separating Kling's African Rifles from Kriosian Volunteers and the Mad Mounties of Galorda Prime.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[F. King Daniel]

Apparently Shinzon worked his way to commander in the Romulan forces, a good one too according to starfleet intelligence.

Not bad for a kid from the mines.

You don't fuck with Romulan miners. They're the baddest SOB's in the galaxy.

Just ask the Vulca--

Oh. Never mind

 

[Forbin]

I still think that was the best explanation for the smooth/ridged Klingons - simply two different races from the Empire. But nooooo, they gotta make it some off-the-wall techno-medico-babble thing.

 

[DrCorby]

The only time I remember seeing something like this was in ST: Insurrection. The Son'a had 2 subject races on their ships. While the Son'a weren't an "empire", they were still depicted as being somewhat major "players" in the region.

 

[Finn]

^More like a race that were of interest to the Dominion due to a vital resource for the Jem'Hadar.

 

[Rojixus]

Perhaps the Klingons, Romulans, etc. keep their subject races confined to their homeworld.

 

[RAMA]

Only time I recall other races within an empire is the S'ona, who had 2 subjugated races working for them and the Romulans and Remans.

RAMA

 

[mari]

I always assumed there were other races. In some fanfic I wrote several years ago, the Klingons were doing genetic experiments on a subject race. My Romulans had 8-limbed subjects working in the bowels of the ship as engineering crewmen -- they weren't citizens so they couldn't be officers, but they were child-sized and could fit into crawlspaces easily, so they were valuable as techs.

 

[MacLeod]

Could be down to a number of factors

They subjucate other races they encounter, if they do allowing them access to you technology might be a bad idea as it could lead to an uprising. We don't have direct evidence regarding the size of the empires. but if you are engaging in subjucating worlds that requires a certain level of manpower to maintain order. Which could have an impact on how big you can expand.



There might not be a huge number of inhabitated worlds in that region.

 

[USS Excelsior]

That brainwashed Geordi episode makes reference to a Klingon occupied race, although we don't see them.

The Mind's Eye

 

[Finn]

That brainwashed Geordi episode makes reference to a Klingon occupied race, although we don't see them.

The Mind's Eye

I think they were actually Klingons who had colonized that planet so long ago that they didn't see themselves as part of the Empire.