News The Rian Johnson trilogy is (not) hapenning

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  1. valkyrie013

    valkyrie013 Commodore Commodore

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    Went 16? years without.. anything except a few books, we'll be good.
     
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  2. Skywalker

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    Star Wars is doing just fine on TV. Save the movies for the main saga. (Of course they'll try another trilogy some day.)
     
  3. XCV330

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    I haven't said in in a few years, but now is a great time to repeat myself. TLD was a good movie, it was just bad at being a Star Wars movie (in my opinion, call forth the "I like it!" brigade. Yes. Yes you do, like it.)

    He's better off outside of franchise movies.
     
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  4. fireproof78

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    If the show vanish tomorrow I wouldn't be heart broken.

    No movies, no shows, and the franchise would endure. No harm, no foul, no more endless spurious speculation.
     
  5. Relayer1

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    TLJ was imho the only good entry in the sequel trilogy. I was optimistic about his proposed trilogy.

    Of course it's dead. Let the franchise continue on the small screen. It might be hit and miss but it's not the cluster**** the movie franchise descended into.

    Meh.
     
  6. Mach5

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    Deeply flawed, but still the only one of the three with any semblance of authorship. A flawed work of art, but an authentic work of art none the less, whereas J.J. Abrams hasn't really "authored" anything since Felicity.

    I sometimes wonder what the sequel trilogy would be like if Michael Arndt wasn't fired.
     
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  7. marillion

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    I can't take a source seriously if they can't grammar correctly. "past" instead of "passed."

    That said, If true, I'm disappointed by the news. TLJ was a refreshing take on the Star Wars franchise. Probably my favorite of the three.
     
  8. Tuskin38

    Tuskin38 Admiral Admiral

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    TLJ, IMO, was the best Star Wars movie since ESB.
    Not better than ESB. But right behind it.
     
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  9. Set Harth

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    Well, it was a Bond movie, so...
     
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  10. XCV330

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    and the best one! sorry, mixed my TLA (three letter abbreviations) up
     
  11. fireproof78

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    Personally, TPM was the worst at being a Star Wars movie. TLJ doesn't even come close to that level and it adds some deeper mythological context to the world. I'll take it over the PT.
     
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  12. Set Harth

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    What deeper mythological context?
     
  13. fireproof78

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    The nature of the Force. I love the Prime Jedi mural, the idea of balance and that the Force doesn't belong to the Jedi. It's something that I think helps recontextualize the prequel Jedi and their struggles, as Luke recognizes their failures, but also that he had repeated some of their mistakes. From a mythology standpoint it is actually quite well done.
     
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  14. Set Harth

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    There's nothing new about the nature of the Force in TLJ. Balance was introduced in TPM ( it actually goes back to 1993 if you include the books ) and no one ever said the Force 'belonged' to the Jedi, it's a nonsensical concept.
     
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  15. fireproof78

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    Yes, in the books it felt very much like a Jedi concept. So, yes.

    The concept of balance was introduced, but what it meant was vague in TPM.

    And finally, the expansion of the history of the Jedi. All of it makes it way more interesting and even interesting in the prequels too by extension.
     
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    The hope, if they ever go forward with the story, is that Rey takes to heart Luke's failures and her Jedi can move on from the Jedi of the Clone Wars.
     
  17. fireproof78

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    That's my hope too.

    And I know put a lot of stock in that idea that Luke had learned those, and I think he tried, but he still fell back on what he had been taught. He does things similarly to Obi-Wan, to Mace, to Anakin and to Yoda throughout the OT. The ST reframes things in a way that shows that Luke could only progress so far based on what he had learned. Had his academy not been burned down and Ben not turned to the Dark Side I think Luke could have rebuilt the Order better. He just saw repetitions of failure, became depressed and ran away. Sound familiar?
     
  18. Reverend

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    Well, my days of not taking random clickbait at it's word are certainly coming to a middle.

    Also, isn't this like the 53rd time some no-name site nobody ever heard of has come out with this "exclusive scoop", only for a contradictory article to be published on an actual credible platform inside of 6 months?
     
  19. JD

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    As a general rule if something isn't on a small handful of sites, mainly IGN, Entertainment Weekly, Variety, or The Hollywood Reporter, that I trust I don't believe it. Even if those sites don't have the original story, they'll usually pick up on it pretty quickly if it's legit.
    As for the story itself, I'd be disappointed if it is true, I really enjoyed The Last Jedi, and I'm very curious to see what Johnson can do in the Star Wars universe without the limitations of being the second movie in a trilogy.
     
  20. FreezeC77

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    Which 'books'?

    Because the force not belonging to 'Jedi' was established pretty early in the expanded universe. I think the Nightsisters (who are not Jedi or Sith) appeared in like the first book after the Heir to the Empire trilogy by Zahn and it was in his books you had that creature which has a natural ability to 'block' the force.

    In terms of current 'canon' you had the Nightsisters appear in Clone Wars/Rebels.
     
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