Spoilers The Orville: New Horizons Season 3 Discussion

Prefer Farscape

I do want replicator technology.

 

Star Trek and The Orville is in the same Trek Multiverse. Just different universes. Star Wars also exists in the Prime Universe. The only difference is their Yoda was purple.

 

Just so long as someone is training millions of replicator repairpeople to look after the billions of replicators keeping their society afloat, or they`d be devolving into the Eloi.

Trillions of men and women scrambling to be suckled by an ever dwindling supply of replicators no one knows how to repair and no one knows how to build new replicators.

 

Not to get stuck too far into politics but I think the key driver of successful UBI or (and this is my preference) UBS would be true equality of opportunity and provision of things such as education.

There will always be a small percentage of people who will try and game the system but ensuring no one is disadvantaged due to their birth, ensuring all are nurtured and so you are leaving education with sufficient skills to function in the world would heavily reduce the issues around people not engaging fully with society.

For many, they are held back by parents who either do not have the ability to support their education (due to poor education themselves or due to having to work multiple jobs to get by) which UBS would help resolve but also those whose parents actively diminish their scope to get this education.

Make that side more equal and people will (I believe) start to feel more engaged with society and less like society is against them so they are going to be against society.

In terms of the volume of people who do, stats for the UK have fraud relating to the benefits system (including everything from Universal Credit, Pensions, disability payments etc) is less than 1% so it is statistically insignificant but converting some of those from feeling abandoned from society to part of society will create an economic benefit to themselves and the whole greater than what they are currently taking out of it.

 

I suspect it had more to do with the lawyers. If Paramount ever came knocking, they can point to lack of transporters as the big/one and only thing that really differentiates Orville from Trek.

 

That's a possibility. ST is one of the few that employ transporting on a regular basis.

 

it's nice to have the buget for shuttlecraft to travel and land

 

There's lots of people named O'Brien where I'm from

 

Spain?

 

Yeah. Even Stargate was very creative in how it used such tech.

 

just have robots and an ai to oversee them, problem solved forever.

 

They gain sentience and wander off.

Or, they gain sentience and start melting down humans for fuel.

 

Until the AI decides we are no longer needed.

Bad idea. Very, very bad idea.

 

Remember, technological advancement is always good and should never be argued against. You should welcome our new computer overlords

 

Welcome it... surrrrrre.

Keep some EMPs handy, just in case... most definitely.

 

a modern computer in the traditional term can’t gain sentience. We’re not talking anything remotely this sophisticated here.

 

I wouldn't bet the farm on it.

 

It would have to. Seinfeld obviously exists, we see the characters watching an episode of it back in season 1. Since Seinfeld did an entire episode centered around The Wrath of Khan, and Seinfeld exists in the Orville universe, logic dictates Star Trek exists in the Orville universe.

MacFarlane himself has been asked about this, though he evades the issue, around the seven minute mark of this video:

 

It doesn’t always work like that.
I remember Paul Reiser’s character in Mad About You being asked if he’d ever seen the movie Aliens and he said, “No, why? Should I?” Or something equally meta.
If the fictional version of Terminator needs Sylvester Stallone in the role instead of Schwarzenegger, than so be it.
But yes, the universe of Orville could easily have Star Trek in it as an obscure Sci-Fi show hardly anyone remembers. Except maybe the founders of the Union got lazy and just copied a Kirk speech when writing up their constitution.

 

I think Paul's response to the have you seen any of the aliens movies question was, "only the first one".