The Only Real Problem With The New Movie

[Carpe Occasio]

I just saw Star Trek last night (only twelve people in the theater on a Monday night).

For me the movie came to a screeching halt when Kirk finds future Spock on Delta Vega. When any movie has to stop and engage in a narrative, like Spocks mindmeld with Kirk, you've got a problem. The whole back story about a supernova threatening the entire galaxy, red matter, Spock handling the situation instead of Starfleet, Nero blaming Spock, and the convoluted time travel scenario, really slowed things down. The movie didn't get back on tract until Kirk and Scotty beamed out.

Also, future Spock meeting alternate reality Spock at the end was weird (regardless of what happened to Vulcan). Now the universe has two Spocks who know about each other?

The movie would have been better served with less future Spock. It just didn't work well.

 

[Trekwatcher]

They should have just made it without old spock. It added little, caused enormous confusion, and made me feel sad/embarassed for Nimoy given the part they wrote him. They could have skipped all of the timeline crap and just let the fans consider this a reboot and have been done. Nobody watching nuBSG was running around saying, "But in the old BSG Apollo did this or that" because it was a reboot. Here, because of that whole stupid sequence they have created a whole cluster of problems. Without it, it would have just been a reboot and that would have been that.

 

[exodus]

I swear, people will find anything just to nitpick it.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

I enjoyed the movie more than I would have without Old Spock. That said, I'm sure they could have come up with a plot that didn't involve him. It would have had to be a substantially different story in order to achieve any emotional resonance, though.

 

[Jeri]

Please see the thread about Delta Vega for more info.

 

[Carpe Occasio]

I swear, people will find anything just to nitpick it.

It's not a nitpick. It's a major plot device that I thought didn't work. And as Trekwatcher said it added little.

 

[Silent_Bob]

I swear, people will find anything just to nitpick it.

It's not a nitpick. It's a major plot device that I thought didn't work. And as Trekwatcher said it added little.

Didnt you get the memo? Anyone who doesnt blindly love the new film is a nitpicking basher apparently.

Another vote for Old Spock not working. And the accidental timetravel stuff hurt Nero as a villain too. If he had deliberately traveled back in time, then it would have established him as a dangerously obsessed individual- seeking to utterly ruining Spocks life from the very beginning of his career not just the last few years of his life - instead of just being a lucky villain who gets to arrive when he can do the most damage.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

Didnt you get the memo?

Hmm...if you find it, post it.

 

[Carpe Occasio]

Didnt you get the memo? Anyone who doesnt blindly love the new film is a nitpicking basher apparently.

I liked the movie. It was fun and exciting. It was also good to see some new Trek, especially on the big screen. I just think the future Spock stuff didn't work (or the Spock-Uhura love thing). Your point about the accidental timetravel is valid as well, all tied in with the future Spock plot device.