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Game The Most Disliked Time Travel/Traveler/Loop/Anomaly Episode

Wow, I can't believe I'm doing this, but saving "Fury." Yes, it absolutely belongs on any list of the worst Star Trek episodes ever produced... but for me, so do the rest of these. There was one small thing in "Fury" that I truly loved, and that was seeing Vaughn Armstrong play a Vidiian.

There was also some level on which I appreciated getting to see Jennifer Lien again, even though this is the worst write-out any Star Trek character has ever received and Kes was totally trashed in the process.

But the rest of these have even less going for them (yikes!), so that makes "Fury" the top of this particular pile.

TNG, Season 7: “Firstborn”
ENT, Season 1: “Cold Front”
ENT, Season 2: “Shockwave, Part II”
DIS, Season 2: "Lights And Shadows"
DIS, Season 2: “The Red Angel”
DIS, Season 2: “Perpetual Infinity”
DIS, Season 2: "Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 1"
 
I like Worf/Alexander stories and Firstborn has a fascinating premise.

ENT, Season 1: “Cold Front”
ENT, Season 2: “Shockwave, Part II”
DIS, Season 2: "Lights And Shadows"
DIS, Season 2: “The Red Angel”
DIS, Season 2: “Perpetual Infinity”
DIS, Season 2: "Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 1"
 
Not enthusiastic about any of these but I like Mount's version of Pike so Light and Shadows it is...

NT, Season 1: “Cold Front”
ENT, Season 2: “Shockwave, Part II”

DIS, Season 2: “The Red Angel”
DIS, Season 2: “Perpetual Infinity”
DIS, Season 2: "Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 1"
 
There was only one good thing about "FURY"... it explained Wildman's ridiculously lengthy pregnancy.

I'm bowing out from the rest of this game, because I HATE the Temporal Cold War (I only voted for "FUTURE TENSE" truly for the reasons I stated) and each of the remaining DISCO ones are terrible.
 
I think I'll give a vote for Cold Front. It was early days in the show's run, and I feel like it holds up as decent entertainment, even though TCW was a poorly thought out idea.

ENT, Season 2: “Shockwave, Part II”
DIS, Season 2: “The Red Angel”
DIS, Season 2: “Perpetual Infinity”
DIS, Season 2: "Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 1"
 
I bowed out long ago, same reason. Haven't seen the DIS episodes yet, and nothing else I like.
 
I'm saving DS9: "Time's Orphan", mainly for the performances of Colm Meaney and Rosalind Chao :wah: It's also nice to see a "smaller", more personal look at how time travel can affect people.

I wanted to say that! *meldoramaticomedicawhinyfootstomp* :D:guffaw:

It's very high concept an episode for sure, but - damn - the acting and sincere nature toward the script's ideas sell it the best. And it's downright creepy to boot, especially for Molly. It's a gut-wrencher.

The moral argument attempted about "teh timeline" knocks it down a peg, but the nature of having to re-adapt a child like that does give pause for though - if ever a time porthole actually existed. Thankfully, in Startrekland, they're all over the place and to the point that they talk about it as casually as we do flavors of ice cream - that helps...
 
It could have been called "10 Years of Hell", with Molly (18) saying, "If I send her back, all of history may be restored. And this is one decade I'd like to forget."

And she prods Molly (8) through the portal and as she fades from existence she whispers: "Time's up."
 
I am genuinely surprised that this didn't come down to Fury vs Time's Orphan at the end.

Okay, I'll save DIS, Season 2: "Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 1". Not as good as the second part, but still very entertaining.

ENT, Season 2: “Shockwave, Part II”
DIS, Season 2: “The Red Angel”
DIS, Season 2: “Perpetual Infinity”
 
I'll save "Shockwave, Part II". Those Discovery outings are just dreadful.

DIS, Season 2: “The Red Angel”
DIS, Season 2: “Perpetual Infinity”
 
I'm too late to vote, but is it just me or is the original list missing some episodes?

Tomorrow is Yesterday, City on the Edge of Forever, Assignment: Earth, The Time Trap, Time's Arrow, Parallels, Meridian, Past Tense, Little Green Men, Rapture, Non Sequitur, Future's End, Living Witness, Drone, Gravity, One Small Step, Twilight, Storm Front, In a Mirror Darkly, Penance...
 
There were a lot of anomalies.

Maybe they could do a Most Disliked Kids Focused Episode, including selections like "And the Children Shall Lead", "When the Bough Breaks", "Once Upon a Time"... maybe even that episode where Archer becomes mommy to a hatchery full of insectoids.
 
I'm too late to vote, but is it just me or is the original list missing some episodes?

Tomorrow is Yesterday, City on the Edge of Forever, Assignment: Earth, The Time Trap, Time's Arrow, Parallels, Meridian, Past Tense, Little Green Men, Rapture, Non Sequitur, Future's End, Living Witness, Drone, Gravity, One Small Step, Twilight, Storm Front, In a Mirror Darkly, Penance...

As noted in the original post, the majority of these are intentionally excluded, as they are visits to Earth's past, which is played as it's own list. https://www.trekbbs.com/threads/the-most-disliked-visit-to-earths-past.310686/

The anomalies in "Parallels" and "Non Sequitur" are described as anomalies in space-time, but in practice they were only used to transit in space and not time, so that's why they were left off. I do wonder if the goobledygook explanation in "Non Sequitur" specifically invokes time and time streams enough that I should add it for next time. It's similar to times I've tried to parse the scripts in "The Thaw" and "In The Flesh" to figure out what lists those episodes belong on. But the explanations are total nonsense mishmashes of contradictory technobabble, it feels like the writers spent 5 seconds on it, so it doesn't really lend itself to clear interpretation decades later. In "Non Sequitur" they're trying even less, the alien even says "it's not necessary for you to understand it."

The arresting of the aging process in "Meridian" didn't seem like time travel in the sense of the rest of these, as they are still experiencing the regular progression of time, just in a non-corporeal dimension, but I have occasionally wondered if there are enough "I Am Aging Rapidly/Backwards/In Stops And Starts!" episodes to make a list, and "Meridian" would belong there.

"Rapture" because of the precognition? That's broader than I was intending, though you do make me wonder if every Prophets episode should be added. Though then I wonder if that also requires adding episodes where Saru can sense the coming of death. And I'm sure there's some other precognitive aliens along the way that might be equivalent.

"Living Witness", "Drone", and "In A Mirror Darkly" are interesting ideas, though I think they sit outside the parameters of this list. "Living Witness" has some of the tropes, but it's really about the Doctor being extremely long-lived/immortal, and I think immortal/long-lived characters might be a full list of it's own. "Drone" and "In A Mirror Darkly" lack any direct temporal shenanigans, but they do use out-of-time technology to get their plots going. As there are some Disco episodes on here about the aftermath of their jump to the 32nd Century, as a sort of fractional representation of the full season arc, I can see the argument for included "Drone" and "In A Mirror Darkly", but I was thinking I would go the other way and instead remove the Disco eps without direct time travel the next time the list is played. (There's some trial & error in coming up with standardized criteria that make sense across the different eras of the franchise)

"Time Trap", "Gravity", and probably "Twilight" I'll add next time. "Twilight" is an odd one, it felt more "alternate universe" and no one actually travels in time within it, but Archer's treatment does have a temporal dimension that changes the past.
 
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Too bad, it had such a cool name. But if it outlasted some of the other abominations on this list, it must've been fairly awful.

"Perpetual Infinity" is a perfect winner. It's so terrible it feels more like an outline than a full script, and the actors are just screaming this outline at each other as fast as possible. I wonder if it might be the worst single episode of the franchise?

Thanks for playing all! We'll do a short one next -- "The Most Disliked Barclay Appearance" I'll post it later today.

The 2020 winner of this game was Voyager: "Fury'

MOST DISLIKED WINNERS, 2022
MIRROR UNIVERSE EPISODE: DS9, Season 6: "Resurrection"
HOLODECK EPISODE: VOY, Season 6: "Spirit Folk"
2-PART/DOUBLE EPISODE: VOY, Season 7: "Flesh And Blood"
VISIT TO EARTH'S PAST: ENT, Season 4: "Storm Front, Part II"
TIME TRAVEL/TRAVELER/LOOP/ANOMALY: DIS, Season 2: "Perpetual Infinity"
REGULAR CHARACTER: PRO, Drednok

TOTAL SHOW WINS
TOS, TAS, TNG, ST, PIC, LD, & Movies: 0
DS9, ENT, DIS, & PRO: 1 win each
VOY: 2 wins


Maybe they could do a Most Disliked Kids Focused Episode, including selections like "And the Children Shall Lead", "When the Bough Breaks", "Once Upon a Time"... maybe even that episode where Archer becomes mommy to a hatchery full of insectoids.

That's an interesting idea!
 
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"Perpetual Infinity" IS terrible, but the single worst in the franchise? There's stiff competition for that title from at least one episode from every show...
 
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